Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

They're not. Figures they've used are from other sources.

Find anything that references profit monitors. In the last 3 years I've only seen figures being quoted from national farm survey, signpost farms, coop monitor farms and IFAC.

Im in a private group aswell as a teagasc group

wouldn’t have a notion of doing a profit monitor and giving it to teagasc but I do do a cost comparison for my other group using a different program. Absolutely essential imo. Really shows up the areas you’re good at and the ones you need to improve when you compare it to others

and before someone says “ppl don’t put accurate figures in “ that’s bs, you’ll get questioned if yours are way better than the rest and you better be able to explain yourself or you’ll be called out on it

I wonder will it turn out like 2012 and stay bad for a other 13 months....

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Is there not a synopsis of what it’s costing farmers to produce milk ..meal costs ..fertiliser costs …cost of production published by them yearly 🤔🤔my coop has got in on the act and is now using it to determine a figure as to which our board and representative committee members have to trade to to keep tgeee seats ….and both are ridocolusly high figures …in a previous job I was involved in 2 trade surveys and a company is more than industry in what customers and rivals are doing in all aspects of there business

Yes, based on info from the other sources. They got a serious wrap on the knuckles about 4 years ago on GDPR issues and haven't seen PM figures bulked for publication since. IFAC similarly should not be doing what they're doing currently.

A prominant private advisor has recently gone down this road as well and presented a paper at a womens conference, based on the average figures from her discussion groups. While done on her template, use of the data ourside if the purpose for which is was collected is again wrong.

Are the profit monitors & such like not used to show you your profit per hectare?

Regardless of each individual system sure the bottom line is all that matter, this is where comparing different systems then comes into play & make your own call does it justify increase feed,numbers etc

Just a drystock farmer here gazing on the dairy thread here

What costs are similar ..meal costs differ ..fertiliser will differ ..contracting will differ ..investment ..labour etc …zero point getting hung up on what u think someone else is at improvements year on year inside your own gate all that matters

Everything is comparable /litre /cow or /ha

wide variety of farms in the group from guys not long milking cows on converted farms, winter milk herd, share milking, leased farms, fully owned farm

it gives you a good insight as to whether what you’re at is worthwhile the way you’re doing it or should something be changed be that go back cow numbers or stay going as you are

everyone likes the day to day stuff to do with farming but it’s the financial part is where gains can be made quicker imo

for example they all reckoned a zero grazer would have been a good buy if I saved meal and got similar production, so far it’s working out. We’re feeding 3kg meal since late Feb instead of staying on 5-6 kgs like past years and litres going out the gate are the same /cow as this time last year

That’s it in a nutshell ….I don’t loose any sleep over that sort of shite tbh

All those podcasts and teagasc material are just full of dairy heros and blow holes tbh. Lads that are highly profitable and doing it all in a 39 hour week. Fairytale stuff.

If it's not working for you then your doing it wrong.

Depends how much meal I save really and if I can maintain production with out it

it was either that or make a heap of silage and feed that back out and still feed high meal for our cow type, lot of cost there

i was getting 2 loads in an hour last week. Between that and cows getting out during the day they were fully fed with no silage in the diet

After saving me from having to buy silage aswell

Yeah when you include the silage it starts to add up alright, that's a zero sum bonus as it has to be drawn in one way or another. 2 loads an hour is fair clipping, I was imagining half of that from an outside block.

Well said blue... do you ever miss the cows. No lad I ever spoke to missed them.

There was some nurse in oz I think that asked thousands of people on their death bed about their biggest regrets. I think it was that they didn't live a life that was true to themselves..... vague I know but thought provoking.

Thankfully I have plenty silage this year. I've been without before and it is quite stressful I think on top of everything else.

100% on the z grazing and wet grass