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Leo Varadkar resigns as Taoiseach

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,471 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Don’t worry MrB, won’t be long before they get stuck into Simon too.

    They hate anyone who who tries to change or improve things..give it a week or ten days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,068 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What do you envisage him changing or improving?

    If he improves anything at all in 10 months, will you and MrB accept that Varadkar was useless in comparison?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    He will make some changes. There is no point in Leo resigning if not.

    People are underestimating Harris a little...those that think he is toothless will be eating their words, I suspect.

    He wont be perfect, but he now has the keys to the sweet shop. He wont be toothless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 86,438 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wonder if a scandal leak is incoming, did Leo leak himself 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,471 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    No… no human being is “useless” by and large.

    It will be up to Mr Harris as to what he tackles in his scheduled short tenure.

    Of course those who hate to see progress and genuine effort will be what they always are….no doubt about that.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭LetticebCivil




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,285 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    They are all fiddling expenses. Dara Murphy (FG) showed what could be achieved with fraudulent expense claims and Leo never sanctioned him. He also did not bring in the long promised reform. The message to all TDs and Councillors is to milk it for what it's worth. The Public Sector Standards Bill 2015 is gathering dust a long time.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,888 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Nope. Wouldn't call myself a fan. However, he has been the best available Taoiseach, given that the leader of the party I vote for - Greens - doesn't have the numbers.

    Out of LV, MM and MLMD, Leo stands out a mile as the best.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,334 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Bingo

    You have people on twitter/tiktok who whole account revolved around Leo, now what will they do?

    Really some oddballs on TikTok who record videos daily just to talk about leo and now they have nothing

    Who will they move their attention to next??



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    I thought if you had too many sweets you would end up toothless.

    I'm not sure he'll be able to achieve much in the before a general election and that's nothing to do him I don't think anyone could with 10 months maximum to go.

    It's after the general election we'll see what sort of leader he is. Will he be in a position to be Taoiseach (probably rotating with MM), will he be leader of the opposition, will he be Tainaiste with no rotating Taoiseach. Tainaiste with no rotating Taoiseach - I'm not sure that would be the best move politically but it could be spun as him being a brave leader or one who is willing to do anything for a little bit of power.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,888 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I don't think you understand the numbers. Having large hospitals where doctors are treating large numbers of patients instead of small hospitals where doctors are treating small numbers of patients results in better health outcomes overall for the population.

    Yes, for a single person in the back end of nowhere, they might have less chance of surviving a heart attack, but in general, the population, that is everyone, lives longer and healthier lives.

    It is why all modern countries are built around cities unlike Ireland where we cling to stupid notions of dispersed ribbon rural living.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    A lot of FG apologists are being dismissive of this. But it is significant and points toward the culture of a party. At least someone is working to uncover these things. Josepha Madigan made bogus ministerial mileage claims over four years. The Ditch first asked her for comment on Tuesday. She was contacted again this morning after her response failed to address key issues and was given until Monday to reply. Our politicians can't be above these things.

    Josepha Madigan submitted bogus ministerial mileage claims over four years (ontheditch.com)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭dmakc


    To me Josepha will be remembered for being in legal cahoots with Maria Bailey's drunken swing fall that time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 86,438 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I will admit that during Covid, I found some comfort and reassure in Leo's speeches maybe it was the cough medicine I over indulged



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    To a large extent, it is about affordable accommodation. Unfortunately since coming to power in 2011 FG has done all they can to increase house prices, and this in particular forces trained Irish people out of the country. Replacing expensive Irish workers with cheaper immigrant workers from the Philipines, Ukraine and elsewhere may look like sound economic policy to FG, FF and the Greens, but a lot of the electorate isn't happy with this policy as the emigrants are sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, cousins and friends of those who remain.

    This isn't intended to be an anti-immigrant post - it is a criticism of a poorly thought-out Irish government policy.

    Other countries with large numbers of immigrants do not typically have a large outflow of their own nationals at the same time as an influx of immigrants, and many Irish people are angry that this is happening. The problem isn't usually described in these terms, but this is in many ways precisely what is happening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    He is yet to eat the sweets. That's the point. He may end up toothless at the end of it all, but he will make an impact in the meantime.

    Agreed, lots of connotations but I expect he will make some pretty bold moves early on, otherwise the leadership change would not have occured.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,285 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yep. FG had no credible opposition in 2011 and immediately turned to the dark arts. Irish Water was a prime example of corruption, waste and cronyism. The New Politics guff was all lies.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭TokTik


    100%. I live 18km from Beaumont Hospital.

    I’d a friend who had a heart attack in Spain. If he’d been at home, he’d be dead now.

    I’ve a friend in the same village, his 3yo was hurt in a farm accident. When he called 999 he was told to pick her up and drive her to hospital as an ambulance wouldn’t be available for 3 or more hours. She unfortunately didn’t make it. This was during the day on a weekday.

    I also came across a girl who had fallen down 3 flights of concrete stairs on the Long Mile Road around the 27/28th Dec, called an ambulance for her at 8, waited with her until her sister arrived at 10:30 and left to get a train home, they called me at midnight to see if emergency services had phoned me, they hadn’t. I eventually got a call back at 1:30am to see if an ambulance was still needed. I rang them and they’d gotten a friend to bring them to hospital.

    Health needs a massive overhaul in this country.



  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭animalinside


    He has a certain way of speaking and a voice that makes it sound like everything is completely, absolutely under control and everything is being worked out. Calm but also a slant to it that things are getting done to improve the situation. A very dangerous leader in that respect.

    I think Varadkar's resignation symbolises the end of wokeism in Ireland, or at least the start of a countermovement to it, and it's far beyond time for it.

    Up to recently the only truly anti-woke and anti-left people were the likes of Gemma Doherty, John Waters, the Healy-Raes and a few smaller independents and commenters and being on the right and anti-immigrant was seen as being uneducated and a bit of a joke.

    Other countries have engaged in runaway leftist elitism as well based on social constructs but they all produced right countermovements against it long ago. Ireland has been about 10-20 years behind all those countries.

    This is why I believe Varadkar has resigned. Varadkar is used to being liked and to being "right" and to being the smartest guy around, same as when he trained to be a doctor. It was easy for him to brush off the criticisms before as people who weren't educated about the matter. Now with Elon Musk and others calling him out it doesn't suit his ego so he wants to take himself out of that situation. Hopefully that's it, and it's not that the country is completely bankrupt after paying foreigners to come here, rats fleeing a sinking ship sort of thing.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    Leo has been known to be indiscreet - the snog in the George, for instance, and the document leaked to his friend.

    Let's consider a possibility, not saying it is true, but it might be. Supposing he had done several other even more serious things, or been even more indiscreet in private that someone with access to specialised spying software might have found out. Someone who doesn't like some of his policies, or things he has said publicly, maybe. Various countries secret services have access to this sort of software, and one of these might have targetted him to replace him someone more compliant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Er well if he has the keys to the sweet shop and eats all the sweets won't his teeth fall out?

    Edit: someone beat me to it



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    And you missed the point also.

    You have to eat the sweets to become toothless.

    Dumbed down version for you: He will make changes and may pay consequences.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    The leadership change is happening because Leo resigned - are you suggesting that he was pushed and Simon was about to orchestrate a heave against him. Otherwise what you're saying about change of leadership not having occurred doesn't make sense.

    I think it was a case of Leo jumping before he was pushed but I don't know if he was told to jump.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    What does the end of wokeism mean exactly? And what did the government do that made them 'woke ' ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭emo72


    If Simon Harris wants to hit the ground running, here's one simple thing that he could do. Outlaw property companies from buying out complete housing estates and renting them out forever. That's it. Just one little thing to let us know that he does want his party to change for the good of it's citizens, and not large corporate property interests. Have a go Simon, it's not that hard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,486 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Donnelly, lol, the minister who has been told to STFU you are talking about.?! :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭animalinside


    Am not going to try to answer your questions suvigirl. My post was made in a particular context, if you don't get it already best to just leave it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭L.Ball




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Would be a positive indeed.

    But thats a difficult one when its the investment funds that make the apartment complexes viable in the first place... Dont bite the hand that feeds you and all that.

    Which is why pretty much everything that is being built is being built in Dublin.

    Perhaps a heavy increase in direct govt funding toward housing development could happen.

    Lets hope so.



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