Cork traffic

Fair enough.

It's multiple different jobs and everyone in Glanmire drives everywhere so they need to keep the roads open during works.

They have completed a culvert from Springmount to Meadowbrook as part of the flood relief works. There's loads more to do as part of the flood relief scheme, you can see them working in the shopping centre too.

The new turning lane, bus stops and greenway in Glanmire village is complete.

They're now working on widening the R639 at Hazelwood to get another turning lane in. You can see they're doing all sorts of foundation and sewer and water works as part of that right now. Then they'll signalise the Hazelwood junction and put in a murder strip for cyclists I believe. There's a few months left in that I'd say.

The Glanmire to city to Phase 1 cycle way and footpath is underway at Vienna Woods right now and they've a good few months left at least. Probably more than a year I'd guess.

Hopefully soon they'll start the next section and finish the Ballinglanna Greenway and that will probably take a good few months but it shouldn't be too disruptive I'd say.

Then there's the Greenway from Riverstown to Glanmire which is in design but not yet out for construction, and Glanmire to City phase 2 (Dunkettle to City through Tivoli) and I don't think either of those will affect the current road users.

There was also talk of them doing a greenway or cycle lanes on the Hazelwood road but I don't have any details on that at all. And they're hoping to put in a road from Riverstown directly to Hazelwood too, obviously because what Glanmire needs is "moar cars".

I wouldn't hold my breath. I've actually seen a Garda van stop in traffic on Summerhill to allow someone make the illegal right turn

There are occasionally cops there in the morning discouraging people from turning right down Summerhill, obviously this isn’t viable forever. However its a problem at all times, delaying those who want to turn left from Summerhill to York Hill and causing a build up behind them. Y Hill also gets clogged as people wait to turn right

If they could sort out the s show that is Christy Ring bridge, that would be great!

Yep, exactly. How someone hasn't been knocked down is a mystery.

I walk & cycle around town a lot & have really noticed the uptick in people running red lights in the last year or two. Didn't think is was so prevalent pre-pandemic but maybe I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses.

The red light breaking is definitely worse now than five years ago. At some junctions, especially those with slow sequences, it’s at ridiculous levels.

And because so many cars break the lights ,they make the gap between lights even longer , encouraging more light breakers ,

If only there was a technology that could be used to help stop this - some kind of camera - that activates when the lights go red ,

Oh ,and an amber light after red, just before green -

Obviously none of that gives anyone the right to plow into traffic or pedestrians at a junction just because the lights are with them 🤔😬

I'm not sure exactly if this is what you are getting at but I cant imagine any situation where a car has right of way over an active pedestrian crossing.

Anyway, I glad you were courteous.

I think it's one of those unaccounted for situations in road law. Hard to explain but I think it's the same situation as if you go through (barely) orange in a big junction and the pedestrian lights go green while you're still moving through the junction. The law says you must stop on orange when safe or red but you haven't broken that law, your lights were fine when you passed the stop line. Obviously you give way to any pedestrian crossing your path but I don't think the green pedestrian light has anything to do with you in a car or on a bike.

Disagree strongly.

If you find yourself in a position where you are going through an active pedestrian crossing, that's on you. You have done something you shouldn't have. You stop, wherever you are and wait for the pedestrian cycle to end.

Imagine a case where someone was hit at a pedestrian crossing and the driver's defence was, "the lights were only a bit amber, honest, it was my right of way!"

If you go through a "barely amber" and the junction is clear, you will not be in conflict with any pedestrian crossing. Leeway in lights sequencing sees to that. You've either broken the lights or shouldn't have proceeded as the way wasn't clear if you are in conflict.

Take the junction in Mahon for instance, it's massive, there are no yellow boxes, if there's a slow driver ahead of you you can easily end up in the middle of the junction with the lights after changing even though your light was green when you passed it. Again, you obviously give way to any pedestrian crossing the road (whether they have a green man or not!) but there's no law I can identify that says you must stop on account of the pedestrian lights alone. These are pointing perpendicular to your direction of travel, some (in general, not here) even have covers to prevent anyone but pedestrians seeing them. They are not designed for people on the road in the junction to be looking at.

Unless you're one of those people you see occasionally who goes through a junction and stops for the red lights for perpendicular traffic 😁

Anyway, my situation as dulpit points out was caused by oncoming drivers breaking the red light.

I definitely agree something is missing, but that doesn't sound right, does that mean you can't enter a junction if there's someone already in your path? Surely that would have a bad impact on traffic flow if you had to wait for them to clear it before you enter?

Ok check the exit is clear before you enter, not that the whole junction is clear, that's fair enough.

I hate this bridge now. I often come down the quays heading for North Gate Bridge and get stuck behind eejits waiting to turn right.

There are certain roads that people in Cork just seem to ignore the rules for. Another is turning right onto North Gate Bridge. There is a green arrow light for traffic continuing on past the cinema and another green arrow to turn right. So many people assume once the green arrow for straight ahead is lit that they can turn.

Exact same situation coming out the Western Road by the Mardyke. Separate lights for going straight on towards Victoria Cross and for turning right towards Sunday's Well. Cars think they can turn right if there's no traffic (which is pretty rare these days now)

Unless you are on the one at the bottom of the Well Road where drivers heading from town towards douglas seem to think its fine to block the junction. Coming from the Well Road and trying to turn right under the bridge is often impossible even if the right turn lane is clear as you can't get around the traffic on the yellow box to get into it.

I'm a great believer that an occasional garda or even better a yellow box camera would make a huge difference

Quite common for people trying that and its caused a few accidents from the people in the correct lane who then legitimately move across into the lane for Douglas Court. Even more annoying when they get stuck and block the traffic heading up the well road

It's weird I was convinced of that as well a while back when I hadn't driven that way in ages, that both lanes could go right. It was bumper to bumper inching traffic so you wouldn't see the arrows unless you second guessed yourself and purposely held back to make space to see them. Maybe it's the way there's a separate left turn lane and the Well Road forks to the left that people subconsciously put them together when they're not going those ways? Maybe it could do with an upright sign to make it more obvious when there's traffic. Was oblivious until a niggling feeling made me check on street view later.

I wonder is she the same driver I saw recently who went straight from the right-hand lane there.

Saw a car making the usual, illegal right turn on to Christy Ring bridge. What was unusual was that this person did it with a paddy wagon directly behind them. Guards did nothing.