Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

When was this survey done.

The article on breakingnews.ie references attitudes in November 2023 but then says the survey was conducted in March/April 2023.

Is it an amalgamation of surveys?

Maybe I've missed something?

Palestinians will be granted refugee status I would imagine. They'd be as much entitled as Ukrainians presumably.

Unbelievably there's Indians, Sri Lankins, Nigerians and Pakistanis showing up claiming asylum.

Because it's a free for all there won't be any room left for actual refugees.

I wonder did the governent/media reseruct Joseph goelbles to carry out their polls lately.

This farce along with the yes/yes going to romp home.

Talk to anyone in person and they will tell you the opposite of these polls.

You don't have any business accusing posters of misrepresenting you - you've been accusing people of being "anti-immigration" and far right to beat the band, even thought it's blatantly clear that all posters want is to reduce the abuse of the international protection system to prevent the current crisis becoming even worse than it is.

Any time someone makes a point you're telling them it's futile because of the CTA or Australia being far away, whatever that means. You also clearly stated that we would be better off investing in housing than border controls, as if a relatively small investment in border controls would somehow make us less capable than we already are of developing housing, and not taking into account that tighter border controls would probably pay for itself by reducing costly abuse of IP systems.

You don't seem to realise that we have proven to be unable to build houses for Irish citizens, let alone every chancer that shows up without documents. And you don't seem to realise that, the more houses you give to these chancers, the more will show up. So your idea of "build our way out of this" is just naive. And quoting international obligations doesn't solve anything.

My specific points about border control haven't been repeated by anyone else here, contrary to your claims. I'm the only poster to point out how crazy it is that certain nationalities don't need a visitor visa for Ireland while they do need visitor visas for the rest of Europe and UK. This is what's allowing many chancers to board planes to Ireland.

You clearly stated that this was not worth changing, yet in the post I'm quoting here, you state we should be in line with Europe. You said, "if it's agreed to collectively implement a pre authorisation sytsem, we should do the same" . Well, visitor visas ARE pre-authorisation and it has been collectively agreed in the Schengen zone and UK (and beyond!) that Swaziland, South Africa, El Salvador, Honduras, etc, etc, should have pre-authorisation via visitor visas.

Ok, so you think if Ireland introduces these measures they'll only be 5% effective? Where you're getting that number from I don't know but even if this were accurate, that would be 5% less chancers sleeping in tents on our streets. South Africans cause enormous issues for us here - we should not be allowing them to come without a visitor visa. Such a requirement would make a huge difference to our own illegal residence situation, unnecessary asylum applications, and those people illegally entering the UK. South Africa is a safe country yet it is one of the countries associated with most asylum applications and deportation orders.

Expanding our list of safe countries list would also help. There is little costs involved with doing these things, contrary to your arguments. You talk about "negative consequences" of taking these measures? What would be the "negative consequences" of introducing a rule to state that Swaziland and El Salvadoran nationals need visitor visas to come to Ireland, just like they do in the UK? Do you think it would cripple the tourism industry because of all the genuine tourism that comes from Swaziland and El Salvador 😂?

What my points confirm, is that the government won't even take obvious, basic measures to stop chancers coming here.

Do you know that we have pretty much zero technology to detect counterfeit documents and lookalikes at our airports? I guess we shouldn't bother investing in this either, no? We barely monitor arrival gates and we have no exit checks. Again, this is all stuff that IS done at most airports around the world. So while other countries have "collectively agreed to implement" many things, Ireland very often doesn't bother to do the same. And according to you, we shouldn't bother because the CTA exists!

Well that's clear then .

What's not is how you know that EVERY Irish person who emigrated is being " pushed out of their homeland their birthright " to accomodate asylum seekers ?

Such high drama ! :)

Most that I know of (and I would not presume to say I know them all, unlike yourself , but I know a few ), are happy out travelling , and working abroad , and yeh, they would like the housing situation to be improving before they return , I agree .

But its not what they are ruminating about in Australia or Canada or wherever they are .

It's not good .

But why are you misrepresenting the number .

There are about 10 s if 100 now .

Above is an example of the parasitic lawyers erasing Ireland borders.

Here's another

I was initially upset in reading this but then realised none are being sent back or deported anyway so it will effectively mean no difference.

1400 of them homeless currently and 450 a week arriving, that number will rise coming into summer.

In ngo clown world we just need to build more!

Holy crap.

That is a D Hotel every week now.

How the f**k does this masi guy think they got on the bloody plane in the first place.

It is incompetence and a wilful refusal to face reality.

SF are going to be as bad. They are proposing further measures restricting landlords rights to sell property and how much they can charge. The real effect of that is going to be a large amount of people leaving the market and very few investing. Which ultimately means less money being invested and fewer houses built. All of this while not acknowledging the imperative of dramatically reducing the number of people arriving.

Basically the country is bollixed unless we get a Government that can reduce the numbers coming, encourage greater training of tradesmen, spend heavily on social housing and hugely incentivise private investment in housing.

Even if all that happens it’ll take years to resolve the crisis. But at the moment it’s still getting worse.

One of the big problems is that obvious statements like the above are controversial.

A d hotel for new asylum seekers. We'll need somewhere else for ukranians and family reunifications of older asylum seekers given the nod to stay.

But hey, st Patrick was an undocumented migrant as Leo told us before he jacked. Hope you get offered some tasty gig while in Brussels Leo!

Just in the same way France does nothing about migrants entering the UK. The UK will do nothing about migrants entering Ireland.

They may get their Rwanda plan off the ground. That would be their deterrent. What is ours?

So let’s just give up then? Like another poster posting constantly that because asylum seekers can come via the north there’s no point in increasing security in Dublin airport. Regardless of how the economic migrants get into Ireland they still have to claim asylum, that’s where we should be building asylum centres and processing claims quickly and sending failed claimants home with charter flights. Word would get out quick that Ireland is no longer a soft touch.