Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

You should see the UK Labour party - they've gone so far from representing the ordinary worker it's not even funny!!

Marching with tricolours at these protests is not a good look either. I'm as patriotic as the next Irish person but parading the flag at an anti-asylum seeker protest is giving off serious 'right wing Irish nationalist' vibes (similar to the National Front / Britain First etc in the UK).

The NGOs were lying all along about their open borders "economic boons". Government is infested with these goons

Pay less tax and rely on social welfare more than your average citizen collapsing existing state services.

This is in the UK but we have an acute problem with "unregular migration" compounding the problem here .

The entire house of cards is going to come crumbling down if the the incumbent government keep their track listening to these people .

Not often I agree with you on anything but on this I do. I hate seeing the Irish flag being used like this.

Unfortunately anecdotal observation of one other IPA centre isn't solid enough to show that when you place 500 MEA males into an area that suffers from large social deprivation related issues, Crime, drugs, anti-social behaviour etc. it can lead to positive outcomes for the community.

Coolock Garda station has maybe 2 patrol cars to cover an area with a population of around the same as Leitrim. Not to mention an already strained and overburdened healthcare facilities.

Thing is, our 'leaders' are too arrogant, they don't look to other countries failings, think they know all the answers and listen to their advisors and ngo's over the general population.

As another poster said, the whole house of cards will come crashing down. And they'll be too busy blaming the far right and not see what is front of their faces.

No, 80% excluding don't knows.

Will be pricy to implement Rwanda, but needs must. Word won't be long spreading that the UK is out n that paddy still has the clown at the helm that hopes to give them keys to their own pad after 4 months.

The people arrested did intend to claim asylum. There is no other reason to destroy documents. So it is possible to prosecute scammers before they get out of the airport.

I agree that we don't want scroungers ,and that we need quick response times and genuine deportation. This is not achievable without also reducing arrivals, hence I suggested many practical real-world actions that can be implemented quickly.

About building houses, O'Gorman's infamous tweets of own-door accommodation are a good example of that. We also have had one or two posters on this thread suggesting we should build our way out of the crisis.

Building asylum centres seems to be the way it's going and will be a disaster of its own, as the violence in existing centres has shown. Hundreds of young men of different cultures, many of whom are from troubled impoverished backgrounds, jammed into a building together - what do you expect to happen? Most people don't want such places on their doorstep.

Much of the world is in poverty - most of Africa, Asia, Latin America, and wherever else. An infinite number of people are willing to come here and claim asylum to improve their economic situation if we encourage them. Logically, we can't facilitate this without causing major problems for our own small country. We are already way past the limit.

Well yea I mean the entire area from Balgriffin to Coolock has had 100's of new apartments and houses built there in the last 10 years or so, and with another 800 apartments coming on-stream opposite Darndale it's a case of the services not being there for the population.. Put 500 males with health and security needs into that mix and you're just pouring more petrol into the fire..

Plus the old Irish merchants warehouse beside Darndale will house 1000 IPA's soon I believe..

This seems to be what is happening. And it appears that the traffickers orchestrating the undocumented arrivals by providing them with fake documents to board flights, tend to people who have already been through the scam themselves and have become European citizens. Then they act as a guide for future arrivals. The problem is one that compounds itself.

We are in a far worse position than Sweden.

They changed tack after their nightmare period, removed the NGO lobbying sector and have heavily invested "first contact" services for the remaining economic migrants after stemming the flow. Cultural "education" may help ease the pressures but they now have the problems of policing "ghettos".

We on the other hand close our hotels and nursing homes(removing primary and economic services in an area) and still do not have the emergency capacity to "assimilate" the remaining economic migrants leading to scenes we see now on the streets of Dublin.

We haven't even started thinking about "first contact" services(we haven't even got to the stemming the flow stage yet) for these economic migrants and they are just left to their own devices in communitys up and down the country.

What dya want them to do? Stand outside an apartment building site waving a flag at the bricklayers or something?

Building homes is in the plan for the local area and is known about years in advance, so any failure here is on the local governmental organisations and representatives.

Plopping in 500+ people with a vast range of needs is all very sudden and last minute due to the nature of the IPA crisis...

So start comparing like with like here and stop trying to score some sort of points here..

Just perhaps the meagre resources could just about stretch until thousands of young men were bussed in eh ?