Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Handheld Hijinx Vol 8 - The Saga Game Gear...

  • 27-03-2024 3:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭


    Preface - that's not a typo in the thread title! This is a LONG thread too...

    I happened upon yet another Sega Game Gear, non working, for a decent price....so me being me, yeah, I'll pick it up, chances are it's dodgy caps. It was in pretty rough cosmetic condition also, so a case of nothing to lose here really given the cheap price. This all started last year (I can't even remember the early part of the story, the pics are unfamiliar to me it's that long ago), and finished today. Obviously it was on & off for a lot of time, but it's probably the longest, most frustrating, most annoying project in recent memory....so let me explain why....

    ^^ The Game Gear in question. I took the pic at an angle here to show how the shell is pretty badly scratched & scuffed.

    ^^ Same story around the back...this Game Gear has seen some stuff in its day...

    ^^ Hmm, someone left the batteries in it & they've leaked. Never a good sign...

    ^^ Time to test, just to confirm non operation...

    ^^ Ok, as expected, the screen appears dead. I can hear the game running in the background, so the issues here are likely only screen related. Good, these are usually 'easily' fixable. Lets open it up, and get eyes on what's going on inside.

    ^^ Oooh, not good....there's electrolytic fluid leakage from leaking capacitors & buildups of crud everywhere, over almost every component. Yikes.

    ^^ This stuff is nasty, it conducts current between components, and spreads its corrosive hand everywhere it can go.

    ^^ The battery board was hit with spreading corrosive acid also. This poor Game Gear, man, what a rough life. Let's see if we can treat it to a fresh start...

    ^^ These original capacitors need to go immediately. I've gently heated them here with the hot air station, just to release the adhesive that holds them to the board. Once they're warm, I use a small pliers to gently tilt them up. From here I've much better access to whats left of the solder pads underneath, in order to remove these caps without stressing the pads too much.

    ^^ With the cap standing vertically, I can add some new flux to the pads, and pass the hot air gun over them. With any luck, the original solder will reach melting point and I'll be able to slide these caps off. Thermal transfer is difficult with so much crud covering the pads, so I'll need to be patient, keep the hot air station moving, and not stress the pads by trying to remove the cap before it's ready to fall off.

    ^^ A while later, much hot air gunning, much fluxing, and adding fresh solder...and all caps are removed. This mess really needs to be cleaned up now with IPA and q-tips.

    ^^ Mercifully, all of the existing pads appear to be in tact, and look like they might clean up nicely.

    ^^ A full, and thorough bath and scrub with IPA to remove all that crud. Then re-fluxing, and braid/wicking of the solder pads for the capacitors....some time later, and somehow they're all brand new looking. There's hope...

    ^^ The pads come up very very nicely. They're ready now for new capacitors.

    ^^ A serious layer of IPA over the whole board. This dries off quickly, and the crud will be all gone.

    ^^ I give the power board a submersive bath in vinegar, followed by a rinse of IPA. This will remove all of the corrosive build up, and the IPA will then dilute & remove the vinegar which in itself can be harmful if left in place.

    ^^ Power caps desoldered...

    ^^ The board is now clean, corrosive free, and ready for new caps.

    ^^ Bizarrely, the sound board appears unaffected by leaking caps. I've never seen a mainboard so bad, and a soundboard with no leakage. Capacitor lottery really, but either way, these original sound caps are going.

    ^^ Hot air gun again, and all five caps fall off.

    ^^ Board cleaned with IPA, and is now immaculate.

    ^^ In terms of replacement capacitors, I've gone with the Retro Six ceramic cap kit. No more leaky mcleakerson here. They're solid state caps, and there's only three values of caps needed for the entire job.

    ^^ Standard electrolytic capacitors come with the kit for the power board.

    ^^ Position C11 is first up...

    ^^ Sorry for the pic quality, the lighting wasn't great here. Basically you solder one of the pads with some solder, then slide the cap on while keeping the solder molten, get the position right, and let the cap set in place. Then simply solder the other pad, and that's all there is to it.

    ^^ C11 done. A few more to go...

    ^^ They're lovely neat caps when in place, which means no fiddling with trying to fit electrolytic caps to surface mount pads, as most Game Gear kits will have you do.

    ^^ C68, it can be awkward to solder this one without burning the blue connector block. You'll also notice I must have let the iron hit the brightness wheel here. It's worse than it looks, I took a micro-file to it and was able to level out the top of it perfectly. The sides were fine thankfully.

    ^^ Done, same process as all the rest.

    ^^ These 1uf caps are really quite small.

    ^^ All done, fully recapped mainboard.

    ^^ Sound board recapped. Some people say you shouldn't use ceramic caps in the audio circuit, but I remember testing this out before, and I really couldn't hear a difference. I'm happy to have the security of solid state caps in this place, and it's not as if the Game Gear is audiophile grade stuff to begin with.

    ^^ Power Board recapped here, so that's the whole console cleaned down, and all caps replaced.

    ^^ Reassembly for testing, hopefully that all does the job...

    ^^ Ahh, boo. It seems the screen itself is dead in this unit, and it'l require replacement. There was always a chance this would be the outcome. It's ok, I can live with that, time to order up a few bits....

    ^^ Another full disassembly...


    ***** So at this stage, I've bought the following: *********************************************

    x1 Game Gear Clean Screen Kit (presumably a 3.1 version board because the instructions for fitting prior versions don't exist on the website) - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-CleanScreen-Kit-v3-1-IPS-p548367509

    x1 Game Gear Replacement Shell (no mention of correct useage with an LCD screen on product page) - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-Shell-Cream-White-p231813324

    x1 Game Gear Replacement Screen Lens - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-Glass-Lens-Black-p141380224

    x1 Game Gear Clean Juice Battery & Power Kit - https://retrosix.co.uk/CleanJuice-USB-C-Battery-Pack-Game-Gear-p394380822

    x1 Game Gear Clean AMP Duo Stereo Sound Board - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-CleanAmp-Duo-Stereo-Audio-Amplifier-p598604394

    x1 Set of Game Gear Power and Audio Replacement Interconnects - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-Power-Audio-Motherboard-Cables-p475957379

    x1 Set of Game Gear Buttons in black - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-Buttons-Black-p231806377

    x1 Set of Silicon Rubbers for the Dpad & Buttons etc - https://retrosix.co.uk/Game-Gear-Rubbers-c54000905

    ***************************************************************************************


    ^^ Ok, so all the parts arrive a while later, & in order to fit the screen kit I bought, a few things need to be removed. The website wiki doesn't list instructions for anything other than the 3.0 & 3.1 Cleanscreen kits, so I'm assuming because it's only a few weeks later, than I must have the 3.1 board, and I proceed with those instructions. I didn't have a 3.1 board, as we'll see later....ultimately it's my fault I should have been more diligent with the instructions....but the boards REALLY should have the version/revision marked on them, and the instruction page needs to have identifying images between all the different versions. Anyway, at this stage, I've started down the wrong path & have removed some components related to the screen dimming and power generation circuits as per the guide - https://www.retrosix.wiki/cleanscreen-v31-game-gear-va012

    ^^ The original screen has to be removed (who'd have thought!), so we need to remove the ribbon from the mainboard. This ribbon is soldered on, so we don't want to just rip it out as we risk pulling up pads and traces that way.

    ^^ Instead, we position the old screen in such a way that it flexes the ribbon upwards. Then we pass the hot air gun over the ribbon pads, and they release and pop up out of the way all on their own.

    ^^ In a matter of seconds, the old screen is cleanly disconnected from the mainboard.

    ^^ Nice easy removal.

    ^^ We then remove the L2 inductor, as this is only ever needed for generating higher voltages for the old CFL tube (now removed.)

    ^^ Finally we remove these small components, as per the guide.

    ^^ The Clean Screen kit. It's nicely packaged, and comes with Quick Ribbon solder ribbons (a set for both version Game Gear types.) It's well packaged, and has a quality feel to it.

    ^^ The Clean Screen itself. This is the driver board for what'll be the new LCD screen. Unbeknownst to me at the time, this is a v2 board, and not a v3.1. So I didn't need to remove the x4 small SMD components shown above for this board.

    ^^ It comes with 3D Printed brackets which secure the screen on one side, and retain the Clean Screen board on the other side. Four screws holds it in place.

    ^^ The guide says to manually solder the PClock wire, and not use the ribbon for this.

    ^^ We also need to provide HSync and VSync, which come from the old screen ribbon connector, and get fed to the Clean Screen Board (though this caused me untold trouble due to a lack of instructions for my board.)

    ^^ PClock on the Ribbon is then masked off, because we're using our own wire for it.

    ^^ Left ribbon soldered into place. It's not a beautiful fit, but it's ok. The position on the ribbon for START isn't great in terms of alignment, though it's quite cramped there to be fair.

    ^^ PClock on the right hand side soldered directly to the board.

    ^^ Nice ribbon work here I must say. These are quite tiny so it's nice to see it very accurately fitting like this.

    ^^ That's the board screwed in and almost all connections done. I only need to bring up Hsync and Vsync now from the old ribbon connector...

    ^^ I went ahead and soldered Hsync to the H pad, and Vsync to the V pad.....which isn't correct, see further down.

    ^^ Screen slides into place, and we're almost done (!)

    ^^ While we're this deep in, let's proceed with fitting all the rest of the parts. This is the Clean Amp Duo, it's a full replacement sound board designed to accommodate stereo sound. Sure, the Game Gear only had Mono right? Nope, the headphone jack offered stereo sound, so with this board, we'll have stereo from the main unit without using headphones.

    ^^ Nicely designed board, again, a quality feel to it.

    ^^ Replacement power/sound interconnects. The old ones tend to cause issues with the Clean Amp when used with higher volumes, they're old, twisted, and worn out...these new ones have a much nicer electrical pathway.

    ^^ We need to remove the old interconnects, beginning here with this power connector.

    ^^ Out with the old...

    ^^ ...and in with the new.

    ^^ Rinse and repeat for the sound interconnect.

    ^^ It's also recommended to run a bypass wire (the small blue wire seen at the top here.) This bypasses the audio trace on the mainboard which is apparently poorly designed (it's prone to signal loss, changes in impedance, and is very indirect in order to account for the gap in the pcb where the screen goes. This bypass wire allows a much better electrical path things to work better.

    ^^ I have a thing for white handhelds, and this one looked nice on the storefront. It's not a 'brilliant white' which I'd have liked, but is a more cream-white. Still, it looks well, and should look quite nice when the buttons, screen, and lens are all in place later on.

    ^^ New buttons, dpad, silicon pads, and screw set.

    ^^ Stereo speakers fit into place. There's an audio extension cable in the kit to allow for the further distance the now-stereo speaker has to travel.

    ^^ Buttons, Dpad, and silicon pads all in place...

    ^^ Screen lens in place....it's looking better now...

    ^^ This is the Clean Juice board. A complete replacement power regulation and delivery board. You can see there's two connectors for two rechargeable battery packs we'll fit soon.

    ^^ Mainboard slots into place in the new shell. It's not a great fit all things considered, there's some resistance to it that I can't quite see from the topside....but we'll find out later what it was.

    ^^ The Clean Juice Battery Packs, these slot into where the battery compartments are in the shell, and route up to the Clean Juice board which is responsible for also charging them.

    ^^ In order to fit them, we need to remove the battery springs and the associated cabling.

    ^^ Done.

    ^^ Battery packs installed, and cabling for them routed neatly to the Clean Juice.

    ^^ The old link port cover...

    ^^ The new link port cover!

    ^^ Ok, time for its inaugural test run...fingers crossed...


    Post edited by Inviere on


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    ^^ aaaannnnd....nothing. The screen lights up, and dims via the wheel as it should, but there's no image on screen. The game runs with audio, but the image is completely missing.

    ^^ I spend hours, hours fault finding, reflowing the ribbons, continuity testing, looking for schematics, voltage testing, etc (the left most resistor even fell off at this point due to being exposed to soldering iron heat, it's back on here but its upside down which doesn't affect its operation.)

    ^^ Eventually the ribbon melts on me, they're not great durability wise...more of a one-and-done component really, and I'm forced to remove the ribbon and bypass everything manually as can be seen here with the blue spaghetti.

    *** The real kicker though, is that after trawling the website, the wiki, youtube, and eventually Discord....it turns out that Hsync and Vsync are NOT supposed to be soldered to the H and V pads respectively, but instead to the DAT4 and DAT5 pads on the CleanScreen board. Talk about obtuse, I'm not taking the blame on that one, that really needed to be made clean somewhere other than a kind soul on Discord filling me in. Anyway, the damage is done now, the ribbon is useless, and I've rewired everything up manually. After an out-of-shell test, I confirmed the screen is working. Let me put it all together now to get a photo of it working...

    ^^ Both halves poised together...

    ^^ Shell screwed together....almost there now....

    ^^ Lol, an actual lol happened here, because if it didn't, I'd have put my head through the Game Gear by now. Sometimes, you just have to laugh. Remember that resistance I felt earlier when putting the mainboard into the new shell? Yeah, it turns out that you've to cut a particular screw post out of the new shell because it interferes with the LCD (the screw post accommodates use with the original screen, not a replacement lcd.) Now, wouldn't that have been a nice mention on the product page, or the cleanscreen instructions, or, well, anywhere?? Ok maybe I should have investigated the cause of the resistance further, but you can't see it when the mainboard is down, and while everything does sort of fit, it also doesn't fit well enough to survive screwing together. I'll take the blame on that one, but I feel its justified to ask for this to be highlighted somewhere when buying the shell/cleanscreen kit.

    This screen is destroyed. At this stage I've had enough of this crap, and I reorder a whole new Clean Screen Board and replacement Screen, at least this time I know I'll get a 3.1 and all of the published instructions will be relevant. Really pissed off at this stage.

    ^^ The Clean Screen 3.1 board, now installed and all cabling done. Time to test...

    ...and testing shows....a black screen. Nothing, no image at all. The backlight works, the game is running but no image. This job feels like a hidden camera show at this point, surely Jeremy Beadle is about to jump out and tell me I've been framed at any minute now??

    Well, queue hours more diagnosing, fault finding, reflowing, continuity checking, researching the internet/youtube/retrosix wiki. Nothing, no info anywhere on this matter at all. Well, except Discord again. We're weeks later now, and another kind soul informs me, after I'd reached out for help Princess Leia style, that there were some batches of 3.1 Clean Screen boards which left production without being programmed. I'm sorry to curse, but FFS, I've lost countless hours on this job now due to a catalogue of issues, some my fault, and some not. This one isn't on me. This is a quality control issue. I get in touch with Luke from Retro Six, and he issues me a replacement Clean Screen board. This will be the third one going in (the original v2, the un-programmed v3.1, and then this replacement 3.1)...

    ^^ This brings us up to today. The replacement Clean Screen in hand, time to install it.

    ^^ The second set of ribbons from Clean Screen #2 has now perished due to testing, reflowing, and checking. So this needs to come out...

    ^^ Of course, it took a pad with it it. So that'll need to be repaired also. It comes down from the CPU above, so a small jumper wire will do the job.

    ^^ Please let this one work...

    ^^ Installed into place...

    ^^ I've no ribbon for this Clean Screen, so it'll be a manual install....great....all pads tinned...

    ^^ Missing pad bypassed...

    ^^ Also, one of the tiny resistors succumbed to the constant soldering/desoldering of ribbons, and showed infinite resistance on the multimeter. Thankfully I've got a donor Game Gear here I can steal one from.

    ^^ I'll take this resistor here as it's the easiest one to get to, and they're all the same values...

    ^^ See it??

    ^^ Yeah, it's there alright. These are TINY.

    ^^ And now it's installed into place.

    ^^ Manual install done. This one is nice and neat, because I know it'll be permanent.

    ^^ The right side ribbon bottom end is chewed, but I need a section of the top for the Csync connection. The ribbon brings the Csync from the mainboard to the Clean Screen, but I can't tell WHERE on the clean screen the Csync goes to (maybe it's not even needed?), so I can't run a manual wire bypass. I'll cut the ribbon, and use the top half to do the job, as that's as much of it as I need.

    ^^ Done. Csync now fed to the Clean Screen via the ribbon snipping.

    ^^ Screen fed into place....please god let this work...

    ^^ Time to test...

    ^^ Oh thank god....thank god....thank god. I'm sick to my teeth of working on this, and the components aren't going to stand up to any more desoldering. The image scaling for embedding in the thread here is causing the banding-esque blotches, in person, it's crystal clear.

    ^^ Glorious. There's stereo sound, and crisp, clear visuals.

    ^^ There's several display modes to choose from. Raw pixels...

    ^^ Horizontal scanlines...

    ^^ Vertical scanlines, more akin to the natural Game Gear look.

    ^^ Grid effect.

    These are all heavily zoomed in, and look cack on the thread. To the natural eye, they all look quite nice. I'll prob stick with the vertical scanlines which best recreates the natural Game Gear look. Unfortunately though, on the current version of the Clean Screen, they don't persist reboots 😣

    ^^ Lets finish this job off in style. An Everdrive GG X7....top o' the line.

    ^^ I went for the clear model, so it wasn't as noticeable in the shell.

    ^^ A branded Micro SD card.

    ^^ I like to use Disk Part to fully clean any new cards.

    ^^ Time to format...FAT32 is the order of the day...

    ^^ Done. Ready for files...

    ^^ Everdrive OS transferred over to the card.

    ^^ Time to transfer all of the legally owned Game Gear backups over to the card now....

    ^^ I personally sorted them all neatly and into an organised fashion like so...

    ^^ Almost there....almost....there...

    ^^ Looks great, not too noticeable at all...

    ^^ Power on test seems to go ok...

    ^^ Diagnostics check out...

    ^^ Oh sweet lord, it works....it's all working...blurry pic, but that's because of the sheer speed of Sonic & Robotnik 😊

    ^^ Final check....

    ^^ Boom, gtfi-there. To say I'm happy here is an understatement. I'm happy it's over, I'm happy it all works, I'm happy I've a lovely looking working Game Gear with a modern screen and an Everdrive.....I'm just happy...happy.....happy....

    Peace Out!

    Post edited by Inviere on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    It's lovely. Congratulations.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭geotrig


    great write up ,not sure id have had the patience for it.....who am i kidding it would have consumed me ,excellent work and the off white gg looks fantastic to say the least !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,155 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Great write up and I love the white case! Far, far beyond my basic soldering skills but really enjoyed seeing your workarounds.

    What kind of battery life is the clean juice and battery packs give you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Consumed...yeah that's quite apt really. It was on my mind a lot, it's one thing when you know you've done something wrong...you can work on that and fix it. But when you don't know if you've done something wrong, whether the Game Gear itself is faulty, or indeed if the repair products are themselves faulty...now that's a recipe for being consumed....a bit like Darth Vader, lost to the dark side.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Cheers man. Battery life?? Wait, what, you mean I'm supposed to play the bloody thing?? 😅 I'll get to it, but for the time being, I'm finished looking at it 🫣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,152 ✭✭✭Doge


    Pro level work dude. Well done!

    It's a shame some of the crucial steps were missing from the documentation.

    Would I be right in my assumption that the SMT resistors are a little too short in length?

    It looks like they barely cover the pads so you have to use more solder to get them to stay put. Excellent write up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Cheers man. Some of the small solid state caps are a little short in terms of reaching the solder pads. They do all reach their pads, but there's not a lot of room to play with with certain ones. Once you do a dry fit, and use a tweezers to position the cap while the solder is molten, you can align it into position so it contacts both pads.

    Its probably a little exacerbated by the zooming of the camera, my picture angles, and lighting...in practice, it looks less critical.

    Post edited by Inviere on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Quigs Snr


    Patience. Of. A. Saint.

    I do have a pile of these ready for repair, but I also have a working reshelled, clean juice / screen modded one too and I get about 10-12 hours from a full charge on relatively high brightness, so the claimed battery life is in the ballpark for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,449 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    !!!! absolute insanity. With the amount of work you put into that you'd have nearly been quicker just assembling a Gamegear from scratch. 😁

    You'll have to store it away now for a few years before using it as I'd say you'll be suffering from PTSD every time you look at it for a while yet.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Incredible work. Wonderful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Yep, and there's some dust/specs under the screen lens now that I've noticed....obviously crept in from the constant opening/closing/changing screens/boards etc. On one hand I'm like, yeah, leave them there as they're part of the story of this saga....and on the other hand I'm like, they have to go...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    This job was actually cursed. I woke up yesterday morning to a washing machine that was tripping the RCD (that caused my Unraid server to initiate a 28hour parity check by the way.) I opened the machine up and seen a hose had come off the back of the drum, so I got that back on....then set about with the final sections of the above thread.

    Finished the repair as shown, went to post the thread....

    ^^ The final sting in the tail....had to split the thread up into two, which causes weird spacing issues etc.

    In light of the washing machine fiasco, I've gone ahead and bought a UPS for the server. Been putting it off way too long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,481 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Absolutely love these types of posts, unreal work man!

    It does make me wish I could get into that level of refurb but wouldn't have a clue where to start :D probably with a electronic engineering degree :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Cheers man.

    I know this is cliche, but there really isn't anything special going on here that enables me to do these jobs. Anyone, with enough practice, and with the right (not quite junk, but not s-tier equipment either), and the right supplies (decent solder, flux, etc), can do this kind of work no problem. My soldering station is a combined soldering/hot air station...Chinese brand around €120ish. Desoldering gun is another Duratec €150ish jobbie. These are things that cost the same as a night when you think of it, and you can build your equipment slowly over time. There's TONS of great informational Youtube videos out there showing techniques, hardware, tips & tricks etc.

    It's a brilliant hobby, I love it, it's maddening at times (!), but overall, the highs beat the lows. It's nice to know you can keep your stuff running when issues arise, and another nice plus is buying cheap consoles with issues that you can roll the dice on repairing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,803 ✭✭✭Inviere


    One final addition I had forgotten to show...

    ^^ The charging port is a lovely USB-C port, that comes with a 3D Printed retainer. Perfect fit.

    ^^ Amber charging light is visible through the shell when the Clean Juice is charging the batteries...

    ^^ The light goes off then when the batteries are fully charged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    As someone that recently did their own Game Gear screen replacement using a dodgy AliExpress Benvenn clone with even dodgier instructions I absolutely feel your pain!

    Well done on finally getting it all sorted!



Advertisement