TV Coverage

No, this is more woke BS. Put them behind a paywall? 🤣 And who in their right mind would pay for some of that $h1+€? Yes, some of these events are fine. But it's like the nonsense Lidl women's football ad about smashing inequality. You can't force people to care about something they've no interest in.

3 posts here and a failed submission attempt, they seem to have achieved that very thing with you 🤣

Keep fighting the good fight though 👍️

2,120 things that they never told you about.

https://www.gov.ie/en/consultations/

Why it how is Cavanagh allowed to display his companies logo and advertise it on national TV? Is he paying for it (I doubt it)?

Hearing Michéal O’Domhnaill speaking as Bearla is discombobulating!

There’s no reason why TG4 couldn’t have the excess MHC and LHC and the excess football championship matches. They obviously think they have the resources, technology and manpower to do so. The GAAs greed going down the subscription route sounds like that is the only thing preventing them

Are TG4 showing the under age championships? U20 football has started

No reason apart from the GAA protecting their product. Don't get me wrong, I love TG4, and they do good coverage certainly, but it's not the GAA's job or role to provide free content, or to give away content to any station for nothing. How would they look to get a better deal from the other TV companies if they give TG4 the excess games?

I don't k ow what the answer is, but I'm not aware of any sport in the world that allows unfettered FTA tv access to its games. The great pity is the 3 broadcasting companies don't work together with the GAA and trash out some collective agreement for the coverage, buy that's not gonna happen, especially with Virgin having zero interest in Irish, and want to continue to relay itv content.

From a football pov it's a downright terrible set of fixtures that RTE have been assigned.

As per last year it includes all 4 provincial finals. These can be great occasions but no longer particularly matter in the structure of the Championship as a whole - both teams qualify for the next stage with no advantage other than the uber-marginal #1/#2 seed thing (plus the caveat that Munster and Leinster finals can be horribly one-sided affairs)

When it comes to the knockout part of the AI Championship the fixtures are bleak. After two games in Round 3 of the groups (16th June) there is nothing televised until the first semi-final on 13th July. So no games in the last 12 - 2nd in group v 3rd in group. And no AI quarter-finals on RTE at all.

From RTE's pov I've suggested before that someone should take the nuclear option and say 'No - we aren't going to sign this contract and won't show anything at all unless the offer is better' (that's obviously complicated by them having a stake in GAA Go). From the GAA's pov it's a terrible bit of marketing for their new championship structure - if this new L12 round followed by 1/4 finals concept is to gain traction it really needs televising on the national stage. The entire package is just bizarrely bad.

Here are the fixtures in written form by the way, perhaps easier to read than the pic above. https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0329/1440759-monaghan-cavan-to-start-rtes-gaa-championship-coverage/

And no AI quarter-finals on RTE at all.

That's feckin bizarre.

Yea it has to be.

Since Sky joined in 2014 the quarter finals were split, two on Sky, two on RTE.

And last year with GAAGO I believe it was the same.

I just checked the GAAGO website is saying they have 4 preliminary quarter finals and two quarter finals, so it has to be a mistake.

Have been harping about this for ages too. You can pay for every minor under 20 or senior preseason tournament in an inflated balloon but not Roscommon Derry in a relegation dogfight in the league. Think all four divisions of the women's league were being streamed on Facebook at one point as well. Id pay good money for all league and championship games streamed - a awful amount of peeps at home and abroad simply can't get to games. The GAA seems to borderline want to reduce the % of games on TV with new football format rather than increase it.

TG4 covered the hurling in Cork a week ago, so the cameras were in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Yet, there is no record of the following Cork-Armagh football game. For a game like that not everyone can attend; evening throw in time, expensive accommodation, 4 hour journey for the visiting team and 2 hours for some west Cork people. Add to that Armagh ladies playing at home earlier in the day. There are GAA people who would like to see the game but who cannot attend, I'm not sure what advantage there is to the GAA in not having this on GAAGo, even after the event.

You can't have long coverage of everyone in a 90 minute programme. But we are no longer restricted to this, you could have a longer programme only on RTÉ player, you could have games after the event on GAAGo. One camera coverage is not great, but it is infinitely more than zero.

The GAA should always 'leave the fans wanting more', and I don't know of any sport in the world that provides 100% Free to air coverage of all of their games, and few even allow 100%paid coverage. There is always a danger or a fear of over exposure, or oversaturating the 'market '.

Nobody is going to agree to a contract that allows other games on a rival service at the same time.

Eg, Galway v Mayo in a Connacht semi, Tyrone v Armagh in an Ulster semi, Cork v Kerry in Munster and say Dublin playing in Leinster the same afternoon. Who is going to pay to broadcast the Connacht or Ulster games in direct competition with the Dublin game being streamed? The market isn't big enough for that.

We're comparing the Utopia of telivised and streamed games in 2020 with the real world, they was a false scenario. No market in the world works like that.

His correct point is that one or more games being streamed at the same time as a live TV game reduces the value of that live TV game, and hence how much a broadcaster would be willing to pay for it. Perhaps not by a huge percentage, but enough to make it a no-no. We see that logic in action in EPL soccer, where Sky and TNT have unique slots at the weekend, such that there is no overlapping of games unless completely unavoidable.

firstly, the GAA centrally has a veto on any stream club or county being shown at the same time as a terrestrial game. Or better way of putting it, youre not allowed as it stands to stream anything in parallel unless you get specific permission

Every championship game is covered at the moment even if its only the one camera, its just that the footage is mostly hidden from the masses and only released as a few seconds of a clip on the Sunday game or in full to county managers to prepare for games.

I dont understand how delayed full games cannot be "broadcast" by Gaago once all other games of the day are completed, or even just make them available for streaming in the archive from midnight on a Sunday once the Sunday Game is over. I am sure theres many Wicklow or Waterford people in the USA or Australia (who were never ever going to be there in person so are not a loss of gate reciepts) who would love to rewatch their countys famous win, and even in Ireland it would give GAAgo a unique selling point beyond the few non terrestrial games they show.

Actually, for both home and abroad, having a pallatte of on demand games NOT shown on the normal service would be a unique selling point over just getting a dodgy box.

is that really the case? The only games I could imagine maybe not getting a camera would be less attractive Leinster preliminary round robbin games but I was under the impression that even those got a camera.

My main point anyhow is that theres an awful lot of championship footage of games there which are not being made available to county supporters, which is a pity

I don’t know why the Sunday Game last night needed to have a section asking people about the provincial structures.

It’s kind of a boring and somewhat negative topic. Especially when there was so much action across both codes to cover, with plenty drama and upsets.

By all means have a review at the end, but jeez it’s the first weekend. It is what it is for 2024 at least, so why not try to enjoy it. What does it add to the programme now ? Can we expect this every week?

They need something for the talking heads to harp on about, it's the biggest bugbear with RTEs Sunday Game coverage, just show the game highlights and have a quick chat to cover any major talking points, they don't need to rehash every play as if it's a video analysis session they're doing. Sometimes the analysis is longer than the highlights.

Yep the voxpop and panel discussion on provincials was equally not unexpected and unnessicary. The Norn Iron sounding Joe Bloggs who added that Connacht is only ever won by Mayo and Galway did rattle this Roscommon diehard on a Sunday night. #knowyourhistory

Emailed RTE and GAAGO about adding any game footage available up on either the RTE player/YouTube/GAAGO the following week after the 90 minute clip has been shown on the Sunday Game. Response I got from both parties was that they don't own the rights and their rights don't allow that, go and speak to the GAA. No response from them to date on my suggestion.

Could it be that it is a rights issue that they can’t show many highlights? I know MOTD, for example, can only show a maximum of 7 minutes per game

As if listening to McMahon wasn't hard enough on BBC but we now have to listen to "Mugsy". I wonder what he will say during Derry's games. He has been known to make jibes towards Derry on Twitter despite going to school in the county. He lives a short drive from the county border.

Then why do television broadcasters all over the world look for unique spots which don't clash with a same-sport game televised on a rival station?

Either you believe every other country is doing it wrong, or else that there is something unique about GAA broadcasting in Ireland that doesn't apply elsewhere.