Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

The potential of Keane as Ireland manager is so f*cking depressing.

I'd happily have O'Shea over Keane.

No, just, please God no.

We definitely need to get back to winning games against the lower seeds more regularly.

We can't be drawing with Ajaers at home, losing to Luxembourg etc. Greece was a tough one for the seeding but we have to do better than two bang average losses there especially when we just see Georgia get the better of them.

I'd agree that any success we have is usually predicated on keeping the losses to a minimum rather than the wins to a max.

Our best players are Ferguson, Ogbene, Kelleher (if he moves to become a regular starter) and then 5 center backs. For Ireland defence first is our best hope at success. Stop conceding has to be the priority.

Surely by now after all the Kenny years people have copped progressive possession first style just ain't the style for us.

Agree that we need two formations. No need to be playing 3 CBs against lesser nations.

I think Smodzics is going to be very important player for us in the next campaign. He has the creative spark that can see and pull off of a pass that will move the play into the final third.

Although it was caught for offside, against the swiss he played and excellent pass on a quick turn down the right wing to put someone (can't remmeber to who) into space heading towards goal. We've been missing someone like that for years now; a number 10 that can sit in between the centre circle and their penalty area and deliever quality passes. Someone like Wes Hoolihan.

Mixed feelings with Keane. You'd imagine he'd have us somewhat organised and would be great for the young lads to learn off and develop their mentality, but feels like he's too long out of the game to be tactically creative against opposition.

Why? His record with Greece is patchy at best. He lost competitive games to Cyprus and a play off final to Georgia. Along with draws to Malta and Lithuania in friendlies. Plus he's fallen out with every one of his recent employers. If it's Poyet we're in for a rocky 2 years at best before the FAI sack him.

Greece were playing in the third tier of the nations league in a group with Kosovo, NI and Cyprus. They were favourites to top that group.

The double standards are amazing. If Kenny had lost a Euro playoff final in Tbilisi, people would be baying for blood on here. Poyet does it and let's give him the Ireland job.

Poyet is not a good option. If that's the best we can do give it JOS or get Duff in. They may not be successful but at least there's a chance they'd galvanise our mediocre pick of players and get them playing above themselves. Poyet is guaranteed to fall out with everyone around him.

I don’t criticise Kenny for losing to Slovakia on penos. A one off game, **** happens. I wouldn’t criticise Poyet for losing to Georgia on penos. **** happens. I didn’t mention Kenny’s where’s the double standard?

Poyet is a bang average manager. He’s perfectly acceptable for Ireland. He’s a better choice than JOS.

no, this team were not expected to qualify. They were 4th seeds in their group. Poyet’s had a very sketchy record across his career - but his time with Greece has been an overachievement.

They won it in 2004. them players are in their 40s and 50s now so they were probably not expected to qualify.

They were favourites in that match, while also not being expected to qualify at the start of Poyet's role. Given that we're discussing Poyet's suitability for our job, how he did overall feels more important than one game against a pretty decent side (where they did still keep a clean sheet, and hit the crossbar).

I wasn't trying to be 'haughty', apologies to anyone if that's how it read.

Greece weren't expected to qualify and they didn't qualify. Not someone I would get particularly excited about, but there's no one else available who would be exciting. I'd be worry about his inability to develop good working relationships though.

Ah yeah. NI, Kosovo and Cyprus are hardly world beaters and you’d expect Greece to top that group.

It’s not because of a technicality we are not in League C. That technicality was a long time ago. We’ve survived relegation twice since.

Because Roy Keane hasn’t managed in 10 years. Gus Poyet is at least current. He’s also cheaper. Much cheaper.

I’d happily take Sangol. Has a decent CV, I’d prefer him over Poyet myself but I think Poyet is fine if it is him. I don’t understand the negativity.

John O Shea is Staunton mark 2. Hope he doesn't get the job.

Kenny managed teams for years, O Shea is just a coach.

yeah, he appears to fall out with everyone. Obviously I’d prefer a manager who didn’t but this isn’t club management where the day to day stuff is important. It’s international, I think it’s far less of an issue than people make out.

2 year contract and see what happens seems fine to me.
I’ll get behind any manager and give them a chance even if I don’t think they’re good enough eg Kenny.

How could you not fall out with the FAI though.