Clean Air/Congestion Charging set to be introduced by 2030

Funny you should ask, because one of the reasons a person on lower incomes might be driven off the road, is because older cars are basically uninsurable. Poor people mostly drive older cars, but for those say older than 15 years, many insurance companies won't quote and those that do will charge an arm and a leg, even for a driver with a long and flawless record.

There's never an official reason given for this but a rumour I heard about a decade ago was that criminals were buying older cars and crashing them to scam insurance companies. Needless to say, our government doesn't seem to give a crap and I've seen evidence that some in high places consider forcing old cars off the road this way to be a good thing.

If you actually gave a crap about the less well off in our society instead of using them as props in your crusade, you would support a thorough investigation into the insurance industry and why they're having such difficulty with the cars that those with less means are more likely to rely on.

you do know that there are thousands of euro added to car for VRT, thousands more for VAT.

Then tax on the insurance, road tax. Then a bucket load of tax on each litre of fuel.

How are people going to get around with your utopia solution, actually I don’t think I have seen any. Just tax tax tax. Green Party card carrying member.

No proposal? Just cars are bad. Tax is good. Charge people to store their property etc etc.

Green party manifesto summed up in a few words.

How about a plan that gets people into the city people who cant just hop on a bike with a Galibre jacket. Metro, buses, etc. Until there is a viable alternative the Green party will just tax the crap out of people.

Actually, they wont (hopefuly), I expect they will be gone at the next election all going well

The purpose of the clean air / congestion charges is to solve air pollution and traffic congestion in Ireland. It has next to nothing to do with “saving the planet” - and it is up to China and India to deal with their truly horrific air pollution (and congestion) problems.

Traffic congestion is the problem, not the symptom.

The reason that bus commute times take way longer at peak times is overwhelmingly due to the traffic congestion caused by increased numbers of private cars on the road, not anything else.

Likewise the main reason that roads are way busier during term times is that parents perceive it is too dangerous to let their children cycle to school and drive them instead - and that perception of danger is mainly due to the amount of traffic on the roads.

Wonderful idea, let's all hop on the Luas from Virgina to Citywest. Or perhaps the high speed train from Navan to Dublin, the low cost bus from Wicklow town. Or hop on the good old bike from Kildare Town to Google Hq.

Need to get options implemented before taxing us even further.

You do know there is little public transport outside the M50?

I think the eco warriors on this thread do live in Dublin. Somewhere on the green luas line. Well served by buses and dublin bikes.

Annoyed that they have to put up with us, whilst they brunch on smashed avacdao toast admiring their new Patagonia Gore Tex jackets.

Meanwhile their Tesla sits at home in off street parking, not taking up the public space.

Just 7 posts on a thread on a particular day in December and you're still whinging about it in March?

We live in a multicultural society. A day is just a day. What's wrong with posting on the 25th December? I don't see you having any problem with your own 16 posts on this very thread on Good Friday? Every one of them was a complaint about a posters valid opinion that the proposed congestion charge amounts to little more than an additional stealth tax with no guarantee of anything ever improving. Instead of running down others, it'd be nice to hear your own solutions, ideally something concrete and practical other than dedicate more roads to non existent public transport and pray it materialises out of fresh air in a few decades.

Your beloved greens have been in power for years now and nothing has improved. Our minister for naps and fanciful dreams has delivered nothing but has personally blocked plenty of helpful projects that could have improved the lives of many.

Why does the great green tax man Eamon think gay people are more vulnerable to climate change?

That's 4 posts in about 6 minutes. All of which avoid the very points raised. I now belive you are Eamon Ryan. Dennial of service by spouting sh1t.

No once did anything I say belittle cyclist (Bianchi and Specialised are my trusty steads) so take your little bingo board sh5t board and.....enjoy your avacodo toast tomorrow.

Me, I will go for a spin on my bike, wearing lycra you will be pleased to hear. And back in my car on Tuesday because thats the only option if you don't live in Dublin City centre.

Perhaps if the government didn't toll aforementioned roads, traffic would use them? Who wants to pay twice for the same thing they've already paid for through general taxation? I'm sure that the congestion charge (tax) will have a similar effect and folk will avoid the city centre where they can. What then? Rip out the roads and re-wild it?

It's hard to say, Eamonn Ryan, as most of us can plainly see, isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

But he does know two things,

1 No Irish media outlet will ask to explain why gay people and women are more vulnerable to Climate Change. In fact, Irish journalists are more likely to smear anyone who does ask that question,

2 Hi followers don't have the acumen to ask themselves that question.

I suspect he said that ridiculous statement to justify sending some taxpayers money over to the NWCI…under "climate justice" or some such b###ocks!! You always have to remember, Eamonn Ryan gets up for work everyday in the belief he is saving all our lives!!!