Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Yes, I read the same thing about it being reversed, but if it was , then the writing would be wrong too. No, I think someone (or ones !!!) were if trying to fake up ISIS involvement. But lots of little discrepancy's in any storys that come out of Russia. A big ven diagram is the best way to describe it. But for sure, whoever took and posted that pic, were not Muslims. Question is, who did take and post it? And why?

A bit on the nose, but…….. :D

Igor Kyivskyi

"In Russia, where there are several million security forces (police, national guard, etc.). Where, a second later, several police officers run up to the person and, if necessary, tie him up. But at the same time, “people” with machine guns calmly enter the shopping center, calmly kill Muscovites, and just as calmly leave the shopping center and drive away. And at this time, in such a large center and crowd of people, there were no police officers who could stop them?

And of course, we sincerely «believe» that all this was not planned by Putin and the FSB."

In regards to the post about Russia paying Europeans to influence votes well there are many ways to pay a person and its not always with money. I would be surprised if a few here aren't in hock to Russia in one way or another.

On the photograph, my guess is that it is a deliberate fake by Russia, the purpose of which is probably to muddy the waters and distract people. To get four people to raise their left index finger in unison would require a specific instruction from the organizers of the photo. Simply not knowing how to do the gesture correctly would have most people raising their right index finger purely by coincidence since most will be right handed anyway.

And it seems to have worked. You have people online arguing over the photo, "knowledgeably" pointing out that Muslims raise their right finger to do the gesture so it have been the Ukrainians who carried out the attack and so forth.

The fake works in Russia's favour. That it is a poor fake also works in Russia's favour as the arguing over it online over whether or not it is a fake also helps Russia.

Could this be double bluff?

I have no knowledge of this "left hand" thing (and so would qualify) but who would be stupid or iggorant enough to post this picture?

The Russians if they were caught on the hop?

It seems amateurish unless it was designed to be spotted.

Refresher from Litvinshenko:

Is balding Molly another way of saying balding paedophile?

I guess so….just wait now for the grovelling apology !!! LOL (or transfer to Donbas)

I'd say that it has sank into quite a lot of Russians the sort of leader that they now have, and while the population are definitely less "adoring" as they may once have been, he keeps an iron grip on them, and now more than ever, because he dares not show weakness. Like they say in Africa about the Cape Buffalo, hè's a dangerous animal at any time, but when he's wounded, he's at his most dangerous. And that's where Putin is now, at his most dangerous.

Before his death, Litvinenko said: "You may succeed in silencing one man but the howl of protest from around the world, Mr. Putin, will reverberate in your ears for the rest of your life."

Seems no one has learned anything about Putin. Still free to wreak mayhem wherever he wants.

I used to have time for Elon Musk. Not any more. He clearly has some kind of dependency on Russia, either money or raw materials for his electric cars. It just makes no sense for him to keep talking Russia up when Putin is clearly on his way down. Europe has pledged too much to Ukraine to give up now.

You’re way off.

America warned Ukraine the counter offensive would fail.

This was leaked in papers by that America soldier online.

Ukraine pushed ahead regardless.

the Yanks talked up the offensive, there might have been different/competing camps but as far as the public view of reality was set, the Russians were going to scarper when the NATO behemoths took to the field, which comes back to the theme of overstating Ukraine abilities and understating Russian ones.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/11/us-ukraine-counter-offensive-pentagon-leaks-reveal

US intelligence reportedly warned in February that Ukraine might fail to amass sufficient troops and weaponry for its planned spring counter-offensive, and might fall “well short” of Kyiv’s goals for recapturing territory seized by Russia, according to one of a trove of leaked defence documents.

Stop talking nonsense. The US knew and warned Ukraine it would fail. Your blame game talk is pure nonsense, just like Musk. Do a bit of research instead of Kremlin propaganda.