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Calving 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    On a slightly better note we adopted a white head heifer calf onto the cow on Friday and so far it's working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭limo_100


    That's great hard to beat a whitehead heifer in fairness always had a soft spot for them. Would you keep a whitehead on to be a cow? I have 3 whiteheads left but they are being cut one after the other not sure I will have them again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Omallep2


    Had a 5 star heifer calve a nice limo calve and she had 3 spins dry also. Calve left on her and supplemented with bottle. Cow since sold (got heifer value for her) and a middling calve to show for it. Can't win them all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I will see what she turns out like. She is a red whitehead but showing more friesian traits than hereford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Had a Charolais heifer calve down here with no milk. Never came into milk either. Rearing the calf with the bottle from day 1. I wouldn’t mind but the heifer comes from a family of great milkers so don’t know what happened.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Cancel the above. The cow was sick with e-coli mastitis this morning. I had a bit of an argument with the attending Vet because he wasn't going to administer Marbocyl to the cow. I had to correct the dosage that he was going to give the cow as he completely miscalculated her weight - she is between 700/750kgs and when I asked him what weight did he think she was he said around 600kgs. I also phoned one of the principles of the Veterinary practice to ensure that he would leave enough Marbocyl to treat her for 3 days. Fingers crossed she pulls through.

    I put the red whitehead heifer calf back with her comrades on the teat feeder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Daughter was saying yesterday they were out with a similar cow, farmer wanted a bottle of marbocyl left on farm, young vet, he was refusing. Left enough injections for the cow alone. Marbocyl is banned in some countries, always found it great here, hope the cow pulls through



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Went through an episode here a few years back, after allot of treatment marbocyl was used which fixed all. Was told it was to be used as last resort anymore



  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭golodge


    A fair size blondex heifer born today in early morning. Sired by the bull called Gazou, 290 days gestation. Found her stuck on hips in time luckily. Cow always throws good calves, but her all bull calves needed bigger or smaller assistance. Her two previous heifers, limx and blondex, were born without any help.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Update on the cow.

    Thankfully she is on rise and is cudding and eating meal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    it’s looks a brilliant place to calve or Outwinteted stock



  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭golodge


    It's a favorite spot for many cows to calve. This one had calved here three years ago as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭golodge


    Bluex heifer born yesterday in the evening. Sired by Newman du blanc dos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Lovely stock



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Lampon heifer calf, in to the oven on the 26th June and out of it 30th March, so happy enough with that. I looked at the cow at 11pm, you would know she was in the humour but that was about all. Looked again at 2am the calf was standing up sucking... isn't that they way we would love to get them all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    I presume you mean Lapon there? Do you use him much, any bother with calving?
    How did that Earp heifer calf you had do after, did she make a cow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    and protection from the cow if you need to do anything to the calf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    Calving cows out in the fields is ideal when all goes well but when the cow gets into bother it’s not much fun especially at night and it bucketing down.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭golodge


    Trees actually come in handy if you need to tie cow somewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    have you tried tying a suckler cow to a tree lately…………



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    @tanko it's the first time I ve used him. AI man told me, he has a shorter gestation and is easier calved than any of the limos I would use. So I tried him in two cows, this 1 and another big red cows due soon. The Earp heifer has an AA in the oven. Due end of April. She is OK, but stayed a bit small... but I think she ll be OK. But the pay off from getting a sim bull isn't worth it. I find sim bullocks take longer to finish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    With Fiston gone a lot of farmers are using Lapon, he’s a good bull, generally easy calved but he has a tendancy to throw an odd big calf also. Yeah, i’ve stopped using Sim bulls, used them for a few years to put milk back into the cows and they did that job, have some nice cows off Direct debit, Derreen Declan, fifty cent and Earp but i’ll use Saler and Lim bulls from now on for replacements, Simx’s make nice cows but tend to have more feet problems and are harder fed. I always sold the Sim bullocks as stores and was happy enough with how they sold but i can see how they’d be harder finished alrite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    sadly SIX cows can bring a white head to the golden CH calf that the LMX & SAX don’t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Suckler cow here who starts kicking her calf preventing sucking in last few years, so far calf has been old enough to best her and/or sneak some off other cows. Started much earlier ( almost from immediately after calving ) this year and calf was drinking from only one quarter and looked a bit thin. Put them in and tie up cow and let calf suck and turns out cow doesn't have much in 3 other quarters. Started giving calf milk from carton ( may get some from dairy farmer if this works ) but how much should calf get per day? (Hoping to leave calf on cow and let her get some there too) I know obvious option is to put calf on milk replacer but awkward mixing for one calf.



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Gudstock


    Milk replacer to calve for a few weeks, keep it clean and send to mart. Fatten and cull cow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I have never seen the white head be a draw back to any cattle I sold and top price heifer in Roscommon on fri was a lim with a white head. I think it looks well on them tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We had a suckler cow died at Halloween, I put her calf onto a fr cow that had just calved along with another calf. I sold the other calf around Christmas so there was just 1 calf on her. I weaned them last week and put the cow back with the milkers. She's giving 18 litres atm. Surprising how much they'll drink ad lib



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    You're right about Lapon CH4321. Pulled a very big Lapon calf for a neighbour last night. He thought calf was dead when he called me. Head half out and tongue swollen up. Both head and legs were stone cold. I've never seen this before. I though it was dead too. Came handy enough with just the ropes.

    Couldn't get beastings anywhere so had to milk 3 lts from cow in crush tru the bars. Crazy but luckily she never kicked. A quiet simmental.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Sickener, leaves a very hollow empty feeling - fine big newborn heifer calf gone to the RVL for post mortem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    I’ve never used him but i’ve heard some farmers say he can be a bit unpredictable. Your neighbour might be better stick with Lim bulls if he’s unable or unwilling to use a jack. Don’t suppose you know who bought the €17K bull in Roscrea yesterday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    The €17k bull was sold online and no mention of who any of the buyers were in the report. More buyers than bulls at the sale and good trade all round.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    I've a nice bull call off a DEP heifer and MONTESQIEU as the sire, 3 weeks old now and showing no sign of horns. Don't think either are polled. Is it possible he don't got none?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    Montesqieu is heterozygous polled so half his calves will have no horns.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Need to correct this. Cow was supposed to be AI'd to Curaheen Earp, so don't know what went wrong. Either AI guy gave wrong straw or some charolais bull got to her. He's a massive char bull, that's for sure.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,929 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Sami23


    After noticing a newborn calf just 24 hours old is very scoury here. Never seen them to have scour that young before. Yellow runny stuff and fairly stink. I gave her some bimastat for now and will contact Vet in morning.

    Is there anything else could give her - I have some engemycin and promox would they be any good ?

    Is scour common in that young of a calf. She sucked the mother within an hour of being born and been lucky up to now scour wise with rest of calves.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    l’d be afraid it’s E. coli scour, a very dangerous thing if it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Calf in good form this morning jumping around the shed but I'll still pop to the Vet later and get something for her to dry her hopefully.

    Will post an update later.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Calving 24 should be finished after last night, but one heifer of my own either didn't go in calf when I thought or broke down and went in-calf later on (left bull with them thinking all in-calf). No idea when she'll calf but wont be soon. Got good nights sleep last night. All calved and out ( 1 use of jack and 3 assisted with hand held ropes)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    In the thick of calving at the moment her. 10 sucklers out of 25 calved since Sunday. Into single digits left now

    Normally would be calving outside, but tough going shuffling them around in sheds. Everything is going out the door as they calves within 24-36 hours. I'm finding a few bits of difficulty this year, 2 with legs down, 1 backwards, and a few calves took a bit longer than normal in the oven.

    It has been a rough few months on stock and farmers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Sami23


    How the hell are ya able to get them out in this weather - my field are too wet to even think about it.

    Hopefully things improve next week 🙏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Small groups of 5-6 cows with calves to a full paddock. Yearling stock are back in with the weather and to allow the cows and calves out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Not set up to keep them in, 3 pens of slatted shed are my calving pens ( weanlings taken to dry bedded shed on out farm to make room ). Tough going outside this year, small groups, moving often, back fencing. Doing damage although in saying that if you walk recently grazed fields there is regrowth and if you half close your eyes into a squint they don't look as bad as feared. Should add as said before I am lightly stocked also.

    None of my land has ever been reseeded and I think it holds up better in bad weather as there is a mat of stuff. I call it MSS but some would call it weeds!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Sami23


    So calf got a bit weaker this afternoon so ended up bringing her to the Vet. Vet gave her steroid and some other injection maby an antiinflammatory as she was a bit chesty.

    She got a Synulox bolus and is now on electrolytes also for dehydration.

    Hopefully she improves by morning as not interested in sucking cow this evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Only have 6 cows this year. To keep the sisters BF happy I Aied them once.

    4 in the last week to wrap it up.

    4 BB

    1 limo

    1 Charolais.


    the grey cow lost a calf last year- calved against a barrier and contracted around the calf and lost her walk. Landed into the shed and she had calved alone.

    4 heifers and 2 bull. Not 1 pull. You’d be tempted to keep going. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Yeah ok. I wouldn’t be a big fan of it.

    Have it 9 years at this stage. It came from the north- injector went straight away. And clutch last year. I’m not a fan of the H shaped fuel tank- has caused trouble before.

    a strong and light enough tractor for our land.



  • Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    he only 3 stars now if you in scep , I have nice calf off him too but cannot use again



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