Drew Harris and the continuing story of the bike

Ask Maurice Mc Cabe.

I’m less the wiser to be honest around what impact the above article has now on a 3 year investigation around a borrowed bicycle? I’m sure the guard in question was involved in all sorts of investigations no less internal enquiries or what nots- but how do they impact bicyclegate?

Sorry maybe I’m thick haven’t read the article properly but just don’t see the connection here

We've seen how certain sections of the Guards respond to whistle blowers, what they tried to do to Maurice McCabe, to me it looks like they tried to do this Guard over the bicycle because he was helping out a whistle blower.

Drew Harris comes across as untrustworthy, dodgy but he has a rare inability to continually mess things up for himself and professionally as well.

Not a good combination.

Don’t hold your breath - it took Gardai over 3 decades to apologise to Joanne Hayes- do you honestly think they’ll apologise for what undoubtedly the commissioner feels is an internal matter that should never have gone public - I’d say he’s fcking fuming behind the scenes that he had to even try and justify this pile of sho1te investigation in public

Clearly there was a back story to his ridiculously long suspension.

Drew Harris will be under pressure now to resign.

lads going on about M15 and international conspiracies and whistleblowers ffs

this is about an organization that cares so little for its people that it issues substandard cars, equipment and uniform that is suitable for neither warm nor wet weather refuses them a union and prohibits them on pain on prosecution from speaking to either press nor politicians and wants to stick cctv on them claiming its for their protection when it is for surveillance and control , rolls back on promises for tazers post riot and removes armed response to one station in every two or three counties

why wouldn't anyone who can leave for oz or the private sector and leave the mess to the substandard quota filling recruits coming half trained from Templemore ?

the government only seem to care what the media think and are driven by that

drew was never the right man for this job and he is starting to look more and more like mr bean , every thing he does blows up in his face , he sat in the control room the night of the riot relaying nonsense orders that could never be followed due to his own failings and lack of leadership

Disingenuous might be a better description than flawed and that is putting it mildly.

Not my favorite new source but if it's true, its a good back story as to why he was targited

Bike loan garda was identified in tribunal (ontheditch.com)

no one forced you to read it kid , if you cant see the topics being connected you probably shouldn't have bothered anyway

I care much what you believe or don't believe i know the damage that has been done when one person was ultimately been responsible. Having meet and spoken to the man on a number of occasions he does not exude intelligence confidence or leadership qualities of any kind and was a blistering embarrassment the night of the riot in Dublin last year .

lol the fact that he has failed and failed miserably at both have any relevance to you argument ?

both police forces have been left in an dangerously poor state

**** politicians pandering to media calls for a outsider and new approach. hasn't that backfired in a big way

do you think he has done a good job ? how so. ?

he has zero support from chiefs and ACs. is so isolated from the front line members that he is supposed to lead that he has a 99 percent no confidence vote (one percent margin of error )

his only political support is Helen whose only support just retired

Fine , He is a M15 sleeper agent controlled wirelessly via 5 g masts by the ghost of one of the former queens corgis

From what I've seen he is a small man in over his head with too much ego to admit it and walk away.

your entitled to believe what you like , but like i ve said under his tenure policing and AGS has disimproved enormously with very few improvements for either the public or the police

the culture in NI is not the same as the culture in the republic, the relationship between the police and the public is totally different thank god

like i said **** politics do **** things and people suffer , its been a long time since we have had a minister of justice that was capable of the job a long time

What's substandard about the patrol cars??

build quality is poor and not suitable for 24 7 use especially Tucson's, constantly off the road

electrical systems not upgraded so unable to handle the radio and lights added so it causes constant failures

1.7 deiseal not powerful enough. huge issues with the new electric cars with charging points and practicality for policing

im sure if your are doing the school run they are fine but not for what the are required to do in policing

they are budget family cars with some stickers and lights bolted to the roof . apparently electric skodas are about to come on line but most stations have "historic " wiring and cant be equipped with fast charging points

lack of driver training also a huge issue of course as is refresher training which doesn't exist

at its core its about upper management not being able to understand modern policing and not having to use crap equipment themselves so they dont care. a few eco friendly cars for a photo shoot with the media while some teenager in a 1.4 petrol honda jazz vanishes into the distance coz your battery is out of juice ;-)

The ironic thing is that the theft of an easter egg now takes far too many hours to investigate than it did a few years ago - between taking initial details to input on three different systems that don't communicate, not to mention the actual paperwork for the investigation.

there you are now applying common sense questions to a system of though that defies it repeatedly. you would have though there would be proper testing and training but no . there wasnt. some dope just made a decision without any concern for those they would lumber with the consequences. the police want them out preventing and investigation crime but some one else wants them recording and collating information that rarely is worth the effort put into it.

therein lies the problem

Are there civilian employees in stations who can do any input or if not, is there a reason why there couldn’t be? Is there a reason why Gardai have to do all the input themselves?

don’t think we’ll ever know unless some sort of civil case is pursued which was reported a few weeks ago - not sure if it was speculation or just the possibility that such could happen