Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

The regime has killed so many innocent people in the last six months with their indiscriminate bombing of Gaza. I imagine this will be met with a lot of anger tomorrow (reports that a British aid worker was also killed in the same strike as well as a Pole and an Australian citizen).

Does any sane person apart from the blood thirsty psychopaths who support Israel believe what they are doing in Gaza makes them any way safer? The world is looking on in disgust, they are now a pariah state more than ever.

You can't have it both way SeanW. The Israelis are fond of trying to talk out of both sides of their mouth at once. But you can't claim they were all "in the area" beforehand (even though they were not in Palestine …….. so you are even then only saying the equivalent of "someone is entitled to live in Crimea because sure they were living in Russia before the invasion") but at the same time claim they were all coming from persecution in Europe.

Anyway, the reports coming in of yet another Irish person killed by Israel. So I'm not in form for any more of your postings and your idolisation of them.

Will that include all the thousands of dead and maimed Palestinian kids?

Lives ruined. They are people too.

Yep. It's important to remember that DNA is traced based on current populations and not historical populations.

So if someone in the US does a DNA test and gets 10% irish, it means that 10% is in common with the irish population when the sample was taken. It's not based on archaeological DNA that was discovered.

Since so many israelis came from Europe they have large amounts of european DNA. They also have some amounts of DNA going back to the semitic populations in the Levant. However all the arab populations in the Levant will have that semetic DNA but without the chunk of european DNA.

Personally I find it mad that people use the percentage amount of DNA to say whether someone has a right to be a citizen of a country. Or to claim that they have some right to be in a country.

I can't see the logic of saying that some guy who's family have been living in America for 100 years and before that in europe for 1000 years, should have any right to live in any place because of a certain percentage of DNA he shares with some other people.

I did the DNA test with 23andme. I'm 100% paddy. It comes back and says something like 100% Ireland. And then 100% British isles. However my surname is Norman. So in the far past I will have had ancestors who were french and Norse. Should I be entitled to have a place in Norway or France?

I would strongly dispute the "modern, civilised, democratic" description of Israel. If they applied for membership of the EU, they would be refused entry owing to multiple violations of human rights (long before October 7th). They are probably a more violent version of Lukashenko's Belarus.

And yet Israel is quite happy to flout international law, murder UN aid workers, starve innocents and can't deny claims of genocide. But yeh, it's all about Hamas. There just isn't enough eyeroll in the world for you, kiddo.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

Australia is not happy. These vile zionist scum have just murdered this lady:

Wake up Biden. Trump has just called on Israel to 'finsh off' Raffa. I'd call this as urging genocide:

“You have to finish up your war. You have to finish it up. You’ve got to get it done,”

https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b

I don't care what Israel’s aspirations are, Netanyaho has spent the last two years sending numerous head-kicking and murdering raids into Palestinian areas. Even a year prior to the Hamas attacks I was thinking he was deliberately trying to provoke a reaction. The fact that they new Hamas was planning a large retaliatory action over a year prior, and just let it happen, suggests they wanted it to happen.

It's not what I call civilised. Civilised countries don't steal and deliberately keep an entire people in degraded subjugation hoping they will just go away. It's Apartheid, which few would call 'civilised' behaviour.

We have no solution... You [Palestinians] shall continue to live like
dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where this process
leads.
Moshe Dayan

It's gained a lot of it's technological advancements, particularly those with military applications, via intellectual theft using espionage, even against the US, just like China.

The original formation of the Jewish state was a big mistake, a typical supercilious and conceited colonial British mistake, like so many others, but this one took the cake. There were supposed to be two states, one Jewish and one Arab, but the zionists wanted it all and have spent every year since Israels creation steadily stealing land and resources from the Palestinians.

Israel sure are textbook gaslighters.

Do some research and come back and tell us how much (hint: it's in the tens of thousands of dollars) per Gazan man woman and child. the Zionists have received in aid (or will receive) from the US and others in the last year that has already been spent or exhausted killing the Gazans.

Every time you see an image of a little girl with amputated limbs or starving and emaciated newborns in a bombed out hospital, just think of the tens of thousands of dollars of aid to Israel that was spent on putting that single child in that state. Every doctor that's executed with a shot to the head. The relatively small family whose small farmhouse was bulldozed to the ground to destroy their livelihood - well that one runs into the hundreds of thousands of aid to Israel spent.

(The US have also said they will replace all of the weaponry and bombs used. That is on top of what they already gave them)

And Palestine too.

Absolutely unforgivable behaviour if this is true.

Murdering hospital staff point blank in cold blood is up there with the worst possible war crimes