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Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,411 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    IDF spox runs for the hills after breaking news of IDF cold blood murders of international doctors and kitchen volunteers

    https://www.mediaite.com/uk/idf-cancel-lbc-interview-about-world-central-kitchen-killings-with-seconds-notice/



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social

    Australia is not happy. These vile zionist scum have just murdered this lady:

    Wake up Biden. Trump has just called on Israel to 'finsh off' Raffa. I'd call this as urging genocide:

    “You have to finish up your war. You have to finish it up. You’ve got to get it done,”

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The interesting thing is that the regime is no longer even hiding being a rogue or terrorist state. Their fans in the west don't seem to have got the memo though and are clinging on to the idea of them being a peaceful and law abiding democracy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I don't care what Israel’s aspirations are, Netanyaho has spent the last two years sending numerous head-kicking and murdering raids into Palestinian areas. Even a year prior to the Hamas attacks I was thinking he was deliberately trying to provoke a reaction. The fact that they new Hamas was planning a large retaliatory action over a year prior, and just let it happen, suggests they wanted it to happen.


    It's not what I call civilised. Civilised countries don't steal and deliberately keep an entire people in degraded subjugation hoping they will just go away. It's Apartheid, which few would call 'civilised' behaviour.


    We have no solution... You [Palestinians] shall continue to live like
    dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where this process
    leads.
    Moshe Dayan

    It's gained a lot of it's technological advancements, particularly those with military applications, via intellectual theft using espionage, even against the US, just like China.


    The original formation of the Jewish state was a big mistake, a typical supercilious and conceited colonial British mistake, like so many others, but this one took the cake. There were supposed to be two states, one Jewish and one Arab, but the zionists wanted it all and have spent every year since Israels creation steadily stealing land and resources from the Palestinians.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,948 ✭✭✭circadian


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Israel sure are textbook gaslighters.

    Do some research and come back and tell us how much (hint: it's in the tens of thousands of dollars) per Gazan man woman and child. the Zionists have received in aid (or will receive) from the US and others in the last year that has already been spent or exhausted killing the Gazans.

    Every time you see an image of a little girl with amputated limbs or starving and emaciated newborns in a bombed out hospital, just think of the tens of thousands of dollars of aid to Israel that was spent on putting that single child in that state. Every doctor that's executed with a shot to the head. The relatively small family whose small farmhouse was bulldozed to the ground to destroy their livelihood - well that one runs into the hundreds of thousands of aid to Israel spent.

    (The US have also said they will replace all of the weaponry and bombs used. That is on top of what they already gave them)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I remember when Joe was in Ballina giving a grand speech about fighting tyranny, respecting human rights and human dignity. Lot of people were cheering, lapping it all up. I wonder what kind of reception he'd get now. His defenders will say his hands are tied in an election year, but even if he was in a new term I doubt he'd try to use his power of veto to block an arms shipment to Israel

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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,758 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users Posts: 51,758 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Wrong again. Israel has been murdering and locking up people, inc children, without trial for many years now. This did not begin on Oct 7th.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,408 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Absolutely unforgivable behaviour if this is true.

    Murdering hospital staff point blank in cold blood is up there with the worst possible war crimes



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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,758 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    What about Aid workers, journalists, doctors, nuns and ambulance drivers? I don't think Hamas killed any of them. Maybe they will be safer when Israel stays within its own borders.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,758 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Every bit as bad or even worse than the murdering Hamas.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There is a definite link between Islamophobia and support for Israel. It's not even that such people particularly like Israel or Jewish people as such IMO - more that they simply hate Muslims.



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,758 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    There is nothing civilized about the IDF dropping 2,000 lb bombs on a tented village and murdering innocent children and women. Nothing at all, they are far from civilized and certainly not democratic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I agree. Israel is democratic but only in certain areas of the country they control. No one would drop bombs or slaughter 30k of their own voters not if they were truly a democracy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,408 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Pre-1940s Germany was a modern, civilised, democratic country.

    • It wants to succeed and grow economically like the rest of the developed world.
    • It has one of the highest standards of living in the world.
    • It is one of the world’s most technologically advanced countries.
    • It has survived multiple full-on attacks from its neighbours,
    • While ostensibly a Christian state, there is freedom of religion

    … And yet look what happened there


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Election year or whatever, surely there comes a point when a man has to stand up, look himself in the eye and say; no, not on my watch.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I don't think Biden actually thinks Israel is doing anything wrong and that the ends justify the means. He has been a decades long supporter of Israel. He is only slightly rowing back his support under pressure from some in his party. His actions don't match his statements regarding protecting civilians life. Be interesting to see if they do actually build the pier in Gaza or if that was a deflection tactic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Incidentally, their media is mostly pro-regime and not critiquing anything that is happening in Gaza. I was listening to a writer from Haaretz on RTE a few weeks ago and he said he was furious at the way his fellow 'journalists' in Israel were reporting the onslaught against Gaza.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    It doesnt help they have a law now to expel foreign media they don't like , like Al jazeera. The media is probably just reflecting the mood among the Jewish population. They don't want to believe they are doing anything bad.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭almostover


    Biden is a coward, one of the worst US presidents in living memory. And that's saying a lot. Problem is, the alternative to him is even worse. The US is a basket case.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, he actually made this point - there is an element of them telling the Israeli public what they want to hear. They only want to hear stories about Israel being the good guys and Hamas as horrible monsters. Therefore nothing bad can be happening in Gaza, as the IDF are the good guys and are incapable of knowingly doing anything wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 35,964 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Netanyahu failing to keep a straight face about the killing of aid workers delivering food

    Scumbag !!!!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Modern civilised states don't illegally remove people from their homes by force and let people from other countries live in them and grant them citizenship in the process.

    They don't steal agricultural land and herds.

    They dont hand lit weapons with a handshake to new citizens who live on these settlements.

    They don't improson 1000s annually without any charge.

    They dont demolish 1000s of homes making 1000s homeless.

    Modern civilized states dont shoot dead 4 children playing football on a beach with the latest greatest sniper equipment.

    Modern

    They'd be hard pressed to not let non Jewish people live there given, non Jewish people have lived in the area for 1000s of years. Especially when they invite some random yanks over to kick out some of the non- Jewish. They do not treat 100,000s of people with basic human decency. That's the crux of it.

    And why are you, again, you, making this an argument about "the Jews". I and , I don't think the majority of people posting here against the actions of Israel have any problem with Jewish people. "Jews" are not the problem. Israel, and it's government, and it's various official policies of base dehumanization are the problem. They are supposed to be a civilised, democratic government, but in reality they are no better than Hamas at this stage. Their kill rate puts Hamas in the shade too. Hamas need to go, but so do all of the horrific policies of irlsrael, anyone on a settlement needs to be moved off and land restored and some basic human decency shown towards Palestinians

    Stop trying to race-bait or try to frame everything and everyone as antisemitic. You keep trying it, and it's blatantly obvious what you're playing at.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    ANd we'll go on..Israel has one of the highest levels of inequality of all oecd countries. It has one of the greatest disparities in income levels from men and women. It has poor represent for non Jewish citizens at all levels of government.

    Twice as many non Jewish children live under the poverty line as Jewish children (as a proportion of their total population). So, not exactly screaming equality there.

    Modern , progressive countries don't blockade neighbours, bomb airports, prevent them from using their own international waters, shoot at fishing boats on a near daily basis, blockade ports.

    Modern civilized states don't bring in laws to censor media that it doesn't like.

    Modern civilized states don't kill Journalists with sniper fire

    They don't then start riots at Journalist funerals either..

    But I guess they have some from of lgbqt+ rights and are in Eurovision, so they must be progressive...



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,411 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    All the memes in the world won't make a difference to the people slaughtered under Bidens watch. The only man on the planet who can make a difference is too busy worrying about insulting the Jewish lobby. He's a coward



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie




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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I notice a lot of regime fans on social media are blaming the aid workers for even being there. Seeing as they were merely helping Gazans, they are not seen as any loss.



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