Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

The Israeli propaganda and messaging would make you dizzy.

A few months ago if irc Netanyahu was blaming the UN, Europeans, Arabs, aid agencies etc. for being slow, lazy, and disorganised with getting aid to the Gazans!

They try and get aid in, and IDF butchers them.

IMO still possible this was not ordered/planned at a high level to drive away aid workers specifically, and increase starvation, but alternative is no better really.

May be a case that Israeli "rules of engagement" in Gaza (other than please don't shoot at the fellow IDF soldiers!) are non existent now by design. It's quietly understood they can do anything and eliminate anything moving, in name of getting Hamas and it will be blessed.

edit: If irc, think I mentioned in a previous post I could see attitude from the IDF that they have a kind of free fire zone and can target who they like causing problems if the US was going to be trying hard to get more aid in. Scenario I was thinking of was IDF attacking Americans or aid workers associated with the temp. port/dock the Americans are supposed to provide.

This is unbelievable but exactly what Israel wants ie to starve the Gazans to death. Any self-respecting Jew should be out on the streets protesting for the children of Gaza if they had any empathy at all.

Almost 33,000 confirmed deaths with approx another 8,000 under the rubble.

Mistake TM

IT WAS A MISTAKE EVERYONE!!! They said it’s a happy little mistake so leave Bibi alone

https://www.mediaite.com/news/idf-chief-apologizes-for-airstrike-that-killed-seven-aid-workers-this-incident-was-a-grave-mistake/

Military sanctions first. UN should Ban all arms trades with Israel as this is unambiguous participation in their genocide

I think this is worth reading, in light of seeing media outlets stating as fact the Netenyaho's claim it was just a mistake. I think that claim is an egregious lie:

On Tuesday, the Israeli daily Haaretz published harrowing details of the strike, citing defence sources.

According
to the report, an Israeli drone fired three missiles, one after the
other, at the convoy of three armoured cars – all of which were clearly
marked on the roof and sides with the WCK’s logo – because of a
suspicion that an armed militant was travelling with them.

Despite
the fact that the suspect did not leave the warehouse with the rest of
the group, the cars were hit as they travelled back along a route
pre-approved and coordinated with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

A
Hermes 450 drone struck one car, causing some of the passengers to
abandon it and switch to the other two vehicles. According to Haaretz,
the team notified the IDF they had been attacked, but another missile
then hit the second car.

Passengers in the
third car tried to help the wounded, the newspaper said. According to
the Guardian’s geolocation of the strikes, the last car was hit by a
third missile about a mile farther south.

Firing 3 missiles at 3 clearly marked NGO relief vehicles on a claimed belief one person in one of those vehicles might have been a millitant, is not a mistake. Even had there been an iota of truth to the belief, it's still a war crime.

Of course I don't believe there was ever a suspicion of an armed millitant and that it was a deliberate killing of aid workers intended to stop the aid, because Israel is intent on genocide. The minimum governments whose citizens were murdered should be doing is asking for the unedited drone footage and audio logs of the drone operators conversations.

Haaretz has also claimed:

Israeli Army Sources: Gaza Aid Workers Killed Because 'IDF Officers on the Ground Do What They Want'

Well at least you can agree IDF are being reckless. I think you may be coming to the realisation that you are supporting a side that does not care about innocent deaths. Only took seven aid workers to add to pile of 30k dead bodies to make you come to this conclusion.

Yep. The 95 journalist/media people killed doesn't seem to have made the same impact

https://cpj.org/2024/04/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/

yes we’ve seen how Israeli investigations work Sean:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/05/middleeast/idf-shireen-abu-akleh-investigation-intl

as useless as the toilet paper I wiped with last week.

That toilet paper was useful. It did the job it was supposed to, cleaned up after your ****.

And I'm sure the israeli investigation will do the same. (just not your **** this time)

it is not useful to anyone now that’s the point. The investigation was only useful to Israel at the time it wiped its ass with it, for PR purposes, so they could pretend they were serious about looking into it.

You don’t need to bother with meager attempt at a witty reply until Israel actually court martials someone.

I can just picture the scene, all those starving Gazan mothers holding their emaciated babies, laughing their arses off because they're getting one over on Israel.

I'll say one thing for you Sean, you bring the intelligence quotient on here all the way down.

A long read but very informative

"Two sources said that during the early weeks of the war they were
permitted to kill 15 or 20 civilians during airstrikes on low-ranking
militants. Attacks on such targets were typically carried out using
unguided munitions known as “dumb bombs”, the sources said, destroying
entire homes and killing all their occupants."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes