Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I think he is exaggerating. The UK politicians need to do some performative outrage for now, but it will die down. It wont have any lasting impact to the UK-Israel relationship.

I'd pick him up on one minor - but still relevant - point. He says the aid workers were killed by Israeli ordinance. That's incorrect. Israel long ago ran out of its own bombs and missiles. They were killed by US and British ordinance. And the US will keep sending more, regardless of whose killed.

Not directly related but I often see the comparison between apartheid South Africa and modern Israel. I get the logic, but I think it actually underplays the exceptional nature of Israel's activity. Whatever about apartheid, Israel has gone far beyond that into the realms of attempting genocide. It might be slow and creeping in Israel itself and the West Bank, but its loud and violent in Gaza. Its a genocidal state, not an apartheid state.

You will travel a long way to find a bigger whack-job, murdering and conniving race than the present Israelis. Cheering on the murders, preventing aid entering and calling foe even more bombings of women and children, not to mention advertising sites for settlers on the seafront in Gaza. If you want bloodlust whack-jobs then look no farther.

And this is being caused by a shower that some would have us believe was like a modern west european state…..

"Gaza’s children are going hungry. More than 25 have reportedly died of complications linked to malnutrition, according to the World Health Organization. Hundreds of thousands more face starvation as Israel continues its siege.

Doctors and nutrition experts say the children who survive the lack of nourishment — and
the ongoing bombing, infectious diseases and psychological trauma — are
further condemned to face a lifetime of health woes. Malnutrition will
rob them of the ability to fully develop their brains and bodies. Many
will be shorter and physically weaker as a result.

“At the simplest level, if you have impaired nutrition and growth, your
brain stops growing,” said Zulfiqar Bhutta, a physician and the chair of
global child health at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/gaza-food-famine-malnutrition-children-aid/

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Mr. “Ten 9/11s” finally changed his tune after [my shocked face] the equivalent of 10+ Fallujahs happen

GOSH IF ONLY SOMEONE HAD CALLED THAT THE MOMENT HE **** SAID THAT DID ANYONE DO THAT oh wait I **** did, 6 **** months ago in this **** thread.

Efforts to stop the UK selling arms to the terrorist regime are rapidly gathering pace. British officials say they fear they are being asked to break international law by allowing the arms sales to continue:

Israel "Biden is Anti semite"

Victim mentality whinging clowns.

Sad that it took the cold blooded murder of 7 people for the superpowers to wise up.

Better late than never though. The western nations seem to be finally wising up to Israel (with the exception of Germany of course, who are still hugely compromised).

clearly.

But you see he justifies all these acts as pre emptive attacks in the name of self defense. It's a convenient position for him to take because it means Israel can never be wrong no matter what they do. He'd be quick to complain if the same doctrine was applied to Israel by another country.

That and the fact it's an election year. It wouldn't surprise me if they are saying something rather different in private to the Israelis. Anyone who thinks the killing of the Aid workers is going to be a watershed moment are in for a big disappointment. America will not stop supplying arms to Israel.

I read today the IDF uses ai to identify Hamas militants they spend 10 to 20 seconds checking the person's identity they will launch a bomb or missile of there's 10 , or 20 civilians there. Eg the Idf considers it ok to kill 20 women children or men if they can kill one enemy militant if Anyone goes to certain areas they consider it free fire eg any person civilian will man woman will be shot if they go in that space

So far 200 aid workers have died mostly Palestinians at this point most of the population in Gaza is close to starvation

This is genocide ,,,/

Theres 3 good articles in gaurdian.co.uk/opinion about the war in Israel

Lord Sumption (across the water) opines that the UK should stop supplying Israel with weapons and should do what it can to obstruct a plausible genocide.

Lord Sumptin or other is damn right

I don't accept the "False flag" conspiracy theory. Though I do concede that Israel's people have the right to ask their government some serious questions. But given that terrorism against Israel is a routine occurrence, it's reasonable to imagine that some information in advance wasn't given the importance it should have.

Nearly half of the worlds Jews live in that tiny country. You're either with them, or you're against them.