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Dangerous driving by dashcam warrior

  • 05-04-2024 8:42am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Will garda do anything about this ? On way to work country road behind car could see he had dashcam screen Illuminated so I said I better only pass him out on Broken white line behind him for 3km him not great driver over white hitting cat eyes going 55 /60km max anyway come to A straight part of the road went to passing out he Started Accelerating hard must say it was Extremely dangerous road wet bit of standing water only for my car being more powerful 2.0tdi compared to that car smaller Peugeot 206 or like I don't what would have happened if was inexperienced driver or if there was car comings toward us (driving truck ect so pretty good driver myself) his driving could definitely cause fatal crash plus he definitely knew what he was doing as went I passed out he was flashing his lights like a nut job

    Maybe 6 months ago I started tread about same driver being dashcam warriors went I pass him out flashing lights ect must be very Nervous driver or someone he knows got killed but what he did this morning was Ridiculous he must be doing it all time didn't realise it was same driver but thinking back on it definitely was him

    Have all on dashcam what he did would garda have word with him I wounder if show footage to garda I wounder ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭walshtipp


    Or just have a dashcam to have footage in the event of an accident?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, what's the point in having a camera unless you leave it on all the time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭chooseusername




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Twitter

    (Mythbusters voice) Well, THERE'S your problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Might post up dashcam footage after work ect



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I find your post difficult to follow but by the sounds of it, you overtook when it wasn't really suitable. You've described it as dangerous and how someone could have been killed. Overtaking is a dangerous manouvre. You were the one who increased the risk on the road. So, in what way do you think that the person you were overtaking is responsible?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    anyway we came to a straight part of the road; went to pass out, he started accelerating hard. must say it was extremely dangerous. Road wet, bit of standing water; only for my car being more powerful 2.0tdi compared to that car

    that's the way i assume the relevant section is intended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Maybe you can't read ? I passed out on straight part of the road Broken white line of car that was doing 55km and went I was passing out he Accelerate hard so definitely not me at fault



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ^^^

    So after some bends, they came to a straight stretch and the driver in front increased their speed - which is exactly what one would expect especially if the driver in front felt under pressure for driving more slowly.

    Again, this looks like the OP misread the road completely making their overtake more risky.

    I'd like to see the dashcam footage to see if I'm misunderstanding the series of events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭eggy81


    You seem fairly permanently outraged yourself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Personally I don't care what you think garda will make there judgement. And went did I say it was after bends he was going slow on straight part of road too but as it was Continuous white line you can't legally pass out and The acceleration was not normal it was Flat to the mat trying to kill me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,581 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    We need the footage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I got hit by a bus, was wearing casual shorts at the time, not a hint of Chinese tat or lycra about me. Luckily my camera caught it from front and back and he was brought to court on a charge of careless driving (was initially a charge of dangerous driving but the lesser charge was easier to get a conviction).

    Thankfully I've such a mastery of video editing I manged to make it look like I wasn't just standing on the side of a road awaiting a large vehicle to come by me so I could step out in front of it and see what happens.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    When you mentioned this…

    anyway come to A straight part of the road

    …it was a logical assumption that before this wasn't straight!

    As for the other driver's behaviour, I wasn't there so can only build a picture based on your post (which I did say wasn't clear). Post the footage and we will see what you experienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Marlay


    could see he had dashcam screen Illuminated so I said I better only pass him out on Broken white line

    If he hadn't had the dashcam you would have overtaken on a continuous line then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,475 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    i thought your powerful 2 litre diesel was going to overwhelm his peugeot 308 😁 not sure what you are looking for here, you dont sound like you covered yourself in glory either.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i hadn't spotted that - proof that dashcams do have a positive effect!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭.red.


    You wrote

    "must say it was Extremely dangerous road wet bit of standing water"

    That to me reads like you overtook him on a stretch of road that was extremely dangerous with lots of standing water.

    If he accelerated then he was acting the maggot but you shouldn't be overtaking on a section of road like that. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    Personally I'm not too concerned about me as if driving artic last 8 years I can read road. But if was just normal driving inexperienced maybe and came cross him and if there was car comings could Easily be fatal and that what I be saying to garda



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,386 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    This thread reads like somebody complaining that they can't drive dangerously and overtake on bends/continuous white lines because the car they wanted to go past has a dashcam…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    All I was pointing out with that he was Accelerating so hand I was actually surprised it go accelerated that hard peugeot it was actually a 206 or like Focus size



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    What was the speed limit on this dangerous road with standing water?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Your posts are very difficult to follow Without the footage it's your version of events only.

    Every motorist should be concerned about their own driving. So what if you are experienced or drive a truck? Overtaking is not a right.

    The easiest and safest thing here was to abort overtake and avoid possible impact with car coming head on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    80km it was Puddle. Very surprised with attitude I'm getting let have people on road went go pass out Accelerate hard and if was inexperienced driver and if car was coming mightnt know what do and have head on crash f

    As Responsible citizen i definitely be going to garda now Dashcam footage will show what that nut cases did



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭RurtBeynolds


    Are you drunk OP?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You have admitted to considering overtaking him on a solid line and to overtaking on an "extremely dangerous road", despite whatever revisionism you've done afterwards. I wouldn't be bringing your dashcam footage to AGS if I were you, as I suspect you might have done something you don't want them to see in the first place.

    Fast accelerating small cars exist, particularly electric models.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭SteM


    You were close enough to see he had a dash cam running, you recognise him from before but you don't know what car he was driving? Please post the footage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭Ted222


    I find that offensive and ageist. I’m nearly 60 and I still desperately look for things to be outraged by.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Sorry that happened you OP, very unnerving.
    Not accelerating while being overtaken is in the Rules of Road and would be prosecuted by Careless or Dangerous driving offences. The other driver was completely reckless here.
    Unfortunately, some people have no power in their lives and the only way they have to feel some power to ‘patrol’ the roads, set the speed on a road where they knew people can’t overtake easily. The same people hold up the queue in the Post Office or Supermarket at busy times having banter and myriad other ways to feel power and control.
    Me, sometimes I’m not in a rush going somewhere and don’t feel like pushing on, or if I’m in my camper, I am still conscious of other traffic and keep to let faster cars off or speed up where I can’t do that. It’s no skin off my nose. A lot of drivers seem to think they own the road in front of them and everyone else can just wait.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭creedp


    In fairness some drivers consider any overtaking of themselves, or when they are on opposite irrespective how much time/distance from overtaking car, a dangerous manoeuvre with flashing lights and shaking fist the std response.

    II'm Impressed that you can assert what is a dangerous manoeuvre from that post.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Was there a speed limit change at the same time as the road opened up? I've seen a few people caught out by cars increasing speed when the limit changes because they were so impatient and wanted to overtake before the change.

    When I was driving my Up! I used to regularly see large German saloons get left on the wrong place of the road behind me as I would accelerate to the new limit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    This site is getting worse. Whocare clearly explains he got to a part of the road where it was safe and legal to overtake, he started overtaking, and the other driver took umbrage at Whocare's "temerity" to overtake his royal highness and tried everything he could to prevent that. A strange attitude is being adopted by a lot of posters in this thread towards Whocare.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I don't think he did himself any favours by calling the other driver a "dashcam warrior" as if that was actually relevant.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What I said was that "overtaking is a dangerous manouvre" - it is because you are moving to the other side of the road to pass another driver. This isn't just my opinion - I could refer you to RoSPA

    Overtaking is one of the highest risk manoeuvres for both drivers and riders because it can put the overtaking vehicle into the path of oncoming traffic, often at high speeds. If there is a head-on collision, the speed of both vehicles combines to create a much more severe impact.

    Nonetheless, it was also the OP who described their manouvre as having been dangerous and I quote:

    …Extremely dangerous road wet bit of standing water…
    I don't what would have happened if was inexperienced driver or if there was car comings toward us…his driving could definitely cause fatal crash

    so no need to be impressed at what I posted, it really is basic knowledge of how to drive



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Especially given that the OP told us that they also have a dashcam and reckons they will show the footage to AGS!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭tphase


    OP, a bit of punctuation would help to make your posts a bit readable. You're really in no position to insult people in respect of their reading abilities.

    Your experience is not unique, it's happened to me (and people I know) more than once. Usually the slower driver doesn't know there's a car behind them until it draws level when overtaking and only then they start accelerating hard.

    I look forward to seeing your dashcam footage when you post it. Hard to make a judgement one way or the other based on the written account presented

    Post edited by tphase on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭CoffeeImpala


    I'd say there should probably be a full stop after the "Extremely dangerous" to indicate that the OP was referring to the accelerating as you're being overtaken rather than the road condition.

    But stream of consciousness posts are hard to decipher so who can say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    happens me about twice a month - it’s not a unique experience at all - the key to dealing with such idiots OP is not look as though you’re trying to overtake - assume they’ll increase speed when the road ahead is clear so be ready to overtake fast as soon as it’s safe to do so - they’ll likely not accelerate as quickly if you look like you’re happy doing 60kmph



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Yes but as a driver, probably the most dangerous thing you will do on the road is overtake another moving vehicle.

    The road conditions being wet, etc and the other driver acting the mick will obviously increase the potential for a collision



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    This topic badly needs the OP to post the dashcam footage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Did you keep accelerating when you spotted that you were being passed?

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭Ted222


    Why wouldn’t you allow them pass you before accelerating? You’re holding them back overall and just winding them up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭SteM


    OP, not sure you said but what was the speed limit on the road?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭Whocare


    6 am still darkish so Illuminating the car interior. Dashcam footage posting here will need see what garda say first you never know might want see him in court



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I'm not holding them back by travelling at the speed limit and they're not alongside me as I accelerate due to the speed change.

    I've no problem with somebody who wants to pass me as I'd rather have the eejit be in front of me instead of behind, but they need do so at a safe location. Overtaking somebody at the point the speed limit changes is not very safe in my opinion as you should expect the other driver to also be changing speed.

    Post edited by liamog on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Daniel son


    Have you been driving long?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    No offence to OP, but the way the initial account was written clearly gives rise to some confusion. So in an attempt to help him by clarifying things, here's what I think he means:

    • OP drove behind a car travelling at 55 to 60 km/h for about 3km, waiting for the opportunity to overtake.
    • When they came to a straight stretch of road, driver in front at first continued to drive at 55 to 60 km/h, so OP began an overtaking manoeuvre.
    • Driver in front then also sped up in a direct reaction to OP beginning to overtake, delaying the overtaking manoeuvre from being completed safely. This, rather than the road itself, is the thing that OP considers was "extremely dangerous".

    @Whocare - is this a fair enough summary, from your point of view?

    I do agree with other posters here that seeing your own footage would be useful, but I understand if you're reluctant to post it before first showing to Gardaí, if indeed you intend to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭JVince


    Most posters (inc myself) seem to be confused. If I read it correctly then the OP needs some lessons as I suspect it is their driving that was particularly bad.

    Am I correct.

    You are driving a very powerful audi and behind a smaller vehicle that did not have the power or prestige of your audi.

    The road had bends and there was an unbroken white line.

    As you had a very powerful audi, you contemplated overtaking the smaller less powerful vehicle on the unbroken white lines because that vehicle had a dashcam and therefore could report you to the gardai (assuming no oncoming car crashed into you whilst dangerously overtaking)

    The road opens up to a straight stretch and the vehicle in front dares to increase their speed as the road condition is now safer for a higher speed of 60km.

    But because you have a more powerful audi. You are obviously entitled to overtake the smaller vehicle and that they have no right whatsoever to increase their speed on the straighter stretch of road because you and your very powerful audi want to do that and smaller cars do not have that right?

    And you wonder if you can make a complaint about this other motorist because you and your very powerful audi had to make an added effort and even higher speed to overtake this lesser vehicle on a wet road with standing water.

    Have I got this correct???



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