Best SUV/Crossover to buy

selectamatic · 07-07-2020 11:41pm

are you sure it's a tuscon? 2010 was the first year of the ix35.

08 and 09 mk1 diesel tuscons are €750 to tax privately.

Their decent yokes but the towing weight is only 1600kg on the 4wd ones and a bit less on the 2wd.

Bass Reeves · 07-07-2020 11:44pm

Tucsons or IX35's had mostly poor towing ability. They had the Santa Fe as well and that was where it was targeted

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 7:24am

Yes it's the 2010 2wd version Tucson. The likes of a diesel 2.0 car would have more towing capacity?

Around 1600kg towing capacity.

Sure a 8x4 cow box with a cow 600kg wouldn't be that weight?

Bass Reeves · 08-07-2020 8:13am

farmer2018 wrote: »

Yes it's the 2010 2wd version Tucson. The likes of a diesel 2.0 car would have more towing capacity?

Around 1600kg towing capacity.

Sure a 8x4 cow box with a cow 600kg wouldn't be that weight?

No a single cow orr bullock in a box would not be however an 8X4 box and two animals or 4-5 weanlings would be above that. You will get away with a single animal in the box. TBH it unlikly you would be stopped with a small box behind it anyway.

Green farmer · 08-07-2020 8:22am

farmer2018 wrote: »

Yes it's the 2010 2wd version Tucson. The likes of a diesel 2.0 car would have more towing capacity?

Around 1600kg towing capacity.

Sure a 8x4 cow box with a cow 600kg wouldn't be that weight?

Been towing with a 8ft livestock box and old 2.0 diesal german saloon car here for a few years with out issue. Load about 800kg of livestock into trailer without any strain on the car, that's rated up to 1.8 tonne. Next time around I'll probably go for a skoda superb, they have a 2.0 tonne towing capacity. My car does 45-50mpg solo and 30mpg with fully loaded trailer behind, so cannt complain about that either, just be sensible not to overload. Wouldn't mind a SUV, but because their in fashion, think you can get more value in a saloon or estate car.

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 8:49am

Green farmer wrote: »

Been towing with a 8ft livestock box and old 2.0 diesal german saloon car here for a few years with out issue. Load about 800kg of livestock into trailer without any strain on the car, that's rated up to 1.8 tonne. Next time around I'll probably go for a skoda superb, they have a 2.0 tonne towing capacity. My car does 45-50mpg solo and 30mpg with fully loaded trailer behind, so cannt complain about that either, just be sensible not to overload. Wouldn't mind a SUV, but because their in fashion, think you can get more value in a saloon or estate car.

Ya I was looking at a superb too, nice cars. I just want something abit high up!

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 9:59am

Anything to look out for in 2010 Tucsons? I will only be towing a small cow box the odd time so will be ideal.

Bass Reeves · 08-07-2020 1:29pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

Anything to look out for in 2010 Tucsons? I will only be towing a small cow box the odd time so will be ideal.

A dog running across the road, sorry could not resist that. Not really familar with them but Hyundai's have a fairly good rep. What kind of money is it.

selectamatic · 08-07-2020 1:34pm

Make sure the clutch and flywheel feel normal and no rattling also gearbox selecting all gears with out grinding. No abnormal smoke etc. The rest is pretty standard. They're solid decent machines for what they are, it'd want to be cheap though especially since its front wheel drive.

Is it commercial?

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 1:59pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

A dog running across the road, sorry could not resist that. Not really familar with them but Hyundai's have a fairly good rep. What kind of money is it.

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 2:00pm

selectamatic wrote: »

Make sure the clutch and flywheel feel normal and no rattling also gearbox selecting all gears with out grinding. No abnormal smoke etc. The rest is pretty standard. They're solid decent machines for what they are, it'd want to be cheap though especially since its front wheel drive.

Is it commercial?

It is, what price is cheap?

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 2:03pm

I don't see much value out there at the moment.

No commercial CRV's or RAV's for sale.

The 750 tax is too high to be paying.

Bass Reeves · 08-07-2020 2:09pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

I don't see much value out there at the moment.

No commercial CRV's or RAV's for sale.

The 750 tax is too high to be paying.

2010 RAV car would be 390 or 510 euro. They were borderline emissions, so tested individually

selectamatic · 08-07-2020 2:14pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

I don't see much value out there at the moment.

No commercial CRV's or RAV's for sale.

The 750 tax is too high to be paying.

Ya commercial crossover style vehicles are keeping their value.

Around 2k is enough to be paying 3k at the very most if its immaculate

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 2:19pm

selectamatic wrote: »

Ya commercial crossover style vehicles are keeping their value.

Around 2k is enough to be paying 3k at the very most if its immaculate

Thanks, ya this looks immaculate and low mileage.

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 4:11pm

Any other good options out there for commercial SUV's?

selectamatic · 08-07-2020 7:59pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

Any other good options out there for commercial SUV's?

Not really for your budget. Lots of newer or older options but around that 2008-2010 period sub 5k options are pretty limited.

If you don't need 4wd then a mid sized van would be every bit as good as a fwd crossover.

2.0hdi peugeot expert from that era has a towing capacity of 2000kg.

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 8:43pm

selectamatic wrote: »

Not really for your budget. Lots of newer or older options but around that 2008-2010 period sub 5k options are pretty limited.

If you don't need 4wd then a mid sized van would be every bit as good as a fwd crossover.

2.0hdi peugeot expert from that era has a towing capacity of 2000kg.

Thanks selectamatic for the help, I was thinking one mid sized van too, the dispatch are the same?

selectamatic · 08-07-2020 9:48pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

Thanks selectamatic for the help, I was thinking one mid sized van too, the dispatch are the same?

Ya same thing. Fiat scudo too.

Bass Reeves · 08-07-2020 10:12pm

2WD 2L duesel Kuga's and 2.2L D Ravs are also legal to tie 2 ton without the 4WD

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 10:20pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

2WD 2L duesel Kuga's and 2.2L D Ravs are also legal to tie 2 ton without the 4WD

Ya but the prices of them suvs are in a different ball park money wise compared the vans mentioned above.

farmer2018 · 08-07-2020 10:21pm

selectamatic wrote: »

Ya same thing. Fiat scudo too.

Are you fimilar with these engines?

selectamatic · 08-07-2020 11:26pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

Are you fimilar with these engines?

2.0 hdi psa unit generally reliable and decent on diesel 136bhp one is the most common one ya see for sale in the 08-10 years. They're better/more reliable than the 1.6hdi of that era.

As with buying any 10 year old vehicle that would be mainly used for work a full service history would be important.

farmer2018 · 09-07-2020 11:31am

selectamatic wrote: »

2.0 hdi psa unit generally reliable and decent on diesel 136bhp one is the most common one ya see for sale in the 08-10 years. They're better/more reliable than the 1.6hdi of that era.

As with buying any 10 year old vehicle that would be mainly used for work a full service history would be important.

I have come across a 2010 2.0 one with clutch and flywheel done recently and low enough miles.

farmer2018 · 09-07-2020 8:52pm

farmer2018 wrote: »

I have come across a 2010 2.0 one with clutch and flywheel done recently and low enough miles.

Any common faults with these vans?

Neo Sanders · 11-07-2020 10:50pm

I've a seat ateca 4wd and I'm very happy with it. It does a lot of rough driving on bad roads and it's well able for it. I've often taken 2 big cows (800kg) in the cattle box and no problem pulling it. Mine is diesel and its cheaper to run than my previous car, a diesel skoda octivia

Seat cars don't seem to be as well known as the kuga, rav etc. But I wouldn't swap it for any mid sized suv on the market

farmer2018 · 21-03-2024 7:28pm

What would people recommend nowadays 2015-2018 in a SUV? Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Ford, Honda?

Bass Reeves · 06-04-2024 6:47pm

The RAV nearly let me down yesterday. It a place I am not too familiar with yet. The road in needs to be scraped. We have a few cattle.on the place and I was traveling it fairly easy previously.

Went in so far along the road and decided to go off road to get nearer where I wanted to go. Got stuck going up the hill and could not reverse out. But I detoured around and got back onto the road.

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queueeye · 06-04-2024 10:45pm

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Have you decent tyres on it? All the power in the world is useless unless you’ve got traction.

Bass Reeves · 06-04-2024 10:58pm

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It's on the road most of the time so standard road tyres. I found about 25k km on it every year(82k miles in five years). When it gets mucky its nearly immaterial what tyres you have in it.

Albert Johnson · 07-04-2024 10:27pm

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I wouldn't agree there Bass about the tyres being immaterial. I do about 20000km a year in a pickup and I wouldn't be without a set of all terrains even though 85% of the time I'm on tarred roads. There's no comparison between an ordinary pattern car type tyre and an all terrain one and I'm speaking from experience.

I bought a Ford Ranger with road tyres on it and it would spin going along the road if you hit a puddle, was useless on lane ways and would need 4wd engaged if the going was anyway off road. A set of BF Goodrich all terrains later and it was like a different jeep. I didn't see any difference in fuel consumption or road noise but it would go in 2wd where it struggled in 4wd previously and it was like it was welded to the road compared to before. They wore like steel too and had ample thread left when I sold it 2 years after.

I brought an Isuzu Dmax to replace it, again with road tyres and got caught out the first week with a load of cattle on a grassy lane way that I'd reversed down to a pen to load them. I had to let the cattle off again and still failed to pull the empty trailer out of it, eventually the jeep spun its way to the top of it without the cattle or the trailer. To say I was vexed was an understatement and I went home for the Ranger which was sitting washed on the street awaiting a new home. It ploughed up the lane without a bother with trailer and cattle behind. I was careful where I went with the Dmax until the tyres were wore and got a set of all terrains at the first opportunity (BF Goodrich weren't available in 17s so I can't remember what we put on but there doing the business). Again it was a different jeep when the tyres went on it. As another poster said above it doesn't matter what power is under the bonnet if you can't get it in constant contact with the ground.

Kevhog1988 · 08-04-2024 4:51pm

This is an odd one but ive had a 4x4 dacia duster over the weekend that the lads in work use to attend faults on telecoms sites.

Its a dinger, the lads in work reckon theyll go where landcruisers wont. Possibly because theiyre so light?

_Brian · 08-04-2024 7:36pm

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the first gen duster was a dog. But the recent 3rd gen is a nice motor. I’d have one for sure in the awd.

SodiumCooled · 08-04-2024 7:42pm

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I wouldn’t believe that, a proper 4x4 like landcrusier, ranger etc will eat any of the jacked up cars for breakfast even if they have 4wd it won’t be a proper system with low range, locking diffs etc.

Kevhog1988 · 08-04-2024 7:59pm

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Can only tell you what the field engineers say. It has a 2wd, 4wd & diff lock setup.

Say my name · 08-04-2024 8:13pm

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If you get up to 50km/hr it'll automatically switch off. But that'd only realistically be at that speed on the road. There's an automatic function of 4wd between 2wd and 4wd lock too.

For the craic look up 4wd Dusters on youtube.

Bass Reeves · 08-04-2024 8:47pm

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Only problem is they are a 1.5L so towing capacity would better issue. You be surprised where those small 4wd will go. When I was on Fraiser Island nearly 6 years ago now I saw a good few RAV's but there was a Suzuki Jimmey doing it as well

Say my name · 08-04-2024 9:30pm

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It was the kei Suzuki Carry that put me onto the Duster. I was going to look at a new Jimny. But the online comparisons Youtube etc, would put the jimny up against a Duster. The Duster was reported more comfortable to drive than a Jimny on road and the online reliability records had the Duster scoring very high and I saved a bit by buying the Duster over a Jimny.

selectamatic · 09-04-2024 12:47am

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A light thing with good ground clearance, decent tyres and AWD will skip through scuttery conditions whereas a proper yoke will have to plough through. Lightness makes a huge difference and nearly as good as makes up for the lack of low range and diff locks.

It's when you add a load like a trailer to the mix that the failings of light duty awd's come to the fore. And the proper machines keep on ploughing.

older by the day · 09-04-2024 1:49am

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I don't know. I had a suzuki vitara 4wd as a field car, around the yard for a couple of years. Till I bolloxed the engine. She was the best yoke ever in the field. Never got stuck in any places, i have a hilux now (I needed the seats) which replaced an old 3l land cruiser and they would not compare to her.

John_Rambo · 09-04-2024 11:35am

Small is good. One of the best off-road cars ever was the Citroen 2CV 4x4 Sahara, then there was the US army Willys MB and a few more including some LGV 70's VW Transporter 4x4's which were amazing. The Duster and the Suzuki are revisiting that road. Few friends have them for accessing difficult areas for various hobbies and sports and they're really good off-road.

SodiumCooled · 09-04-2024 2:09pm

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The vitara of that vintage and the Jimny (not sure on the latest model) have more or less proper 4wd systems though don't they with diff locks and low range - I wasn't really referring to these more a lot of the "soft roader" stuff around nowadays.

That's forgetting about towing also though which for farm use is critical - if it recreational off roading that's a different thing really.

John_Rambo · 09-04-2024 3:27pm

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The op asked about a suv/crossover to buy for mainly for personal use and light amount of towing.

SodiumCooled · 09-04-2024 3:35pm

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Sorry you are right, the discussion had evolved a little to what is a bit of a parallel debate but it is not really answering the original question.

RobinBanks · 26-04-2024 9:48am

Sorry if it has already been covered but any feedback positive or negative on new model Isuzu D-Max. The 1.9D twin turbo

Dozer1 · 26-04-2024 11:51am

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I drove 2 of them a few weeks back really liked them. Met a lad today and said he finds them good on diesel and capable enough towing given the size of the engine. Thought they were more comfortable than the hilux

funkey_monkey · 26-04-2024 12:43pm

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Have one here. Manual dl20. Goes well, more car like in refinement than a hilux.

Tows well. First gear is short so good for taking off and exiting junctions.

Is the factory remap bringing it up to 200hp available in the south? Makes a good difference.

Lane assist is annoying, but it comes in all vehicles now.

josephsoap · 27-04-2024 7:03pm

I’m after a cattle trailer to suit a SUV which has a towing capacity of 2000kg

would a 10x5 be better buy than an 8x5 ?

not a lot of difference in weight between the two of them - probably going to buy a nugent

Bass Reeves · 27-04-2024 8:40pm

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10X5 all day long. Great comfort with it. I have an IW, you be as legal as a lad with a 14X6 behind a LC

hopeso · 27-04-2024 9:46pm

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I'm not sure about the Nugent, but the Ifor Williams 10x5 comes on larger wheels than the 8x5, which leaves it sitting a bit higher off the ground. If the hitch is any way low on your SUV, it might leave the trailer dropping towards the front a bit, which isn't a great job. Just something to look out for.

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