Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Hamas dresses as infants? Is that the new excuse being trotted out? Some genocides take years, maybe a quick genocide would go unnoticed? 33k dead in 6 months or 6 days is still 33k dead.

Some western politicians are actually putting pen to paper in the form of signing open letters, it's not off the cuff remarks they are making. It's also distancing themselves from what looks like a genocidal campaign.

As the poster above mentioned, Hamas is an ideology, you can kill it by killing civilians, in fact the opposite happens, it strengthens the hate. Don;t be blind and ignore the hate that is thought in classrooms in Israel either.

And before a snide reply, Gaza has no classrooms left for Hamas to teach hate in. The IDF are teaching those children in Gaza what hate looks like.

You should have been born in a time where sieges were commonplace and lived to experience one.

Anyone who justifies the siege and starvation of millions of people does not deserve to exist in a world built by better people. It's beyond revolting.

Whats your take on the "settlers" and "settlements" in the occupied territories?

Hamas being retconned into heroic good guys, this is the same idealogy that is making antisemitism = anti-genocide, we are only a few weeks from someone claiming the Nazi's were combating islamophobia.

They clearly have a problem with the state of Israel, but you claimed they want to eradicate all Jews. So if that's the case I am asking why have they not started with the Jews in their own country? Also if they truly believe in jihadism/ martyrdom why have they not launched all out war against Israel to try and annihilate all the Jews and be rewarded in paradise. It seems to be all cow dung much like the Hamas folks in Qatar who say they love death over life, while tucked away in Qatar living a grand life in their villas.

Well all the evidence to date I see does not match the rhetoric from the Iranian Leadership about Jihad and wanting to annihilate all the Jews. It's extremely distasteful but it's an empty threat. There is no existential threat to the state of Israel. They have one of the most powerful armies in the world and are backed up by the strongest army in the world

Some posters seem to want to cry antisemitism and use the idea of an existential threat as a shield to excuse Israel of any wrongdoing. That's not how it works if a country claims to be a democratic state with western values. Why do you think even Israel's allies are criticising their conduct ? Why won't the British Government publish their legal advice on the war in Gaza if Israel has not done anything wrong. We can be fairly sure they wouldn't cite that the information is confidential regarding legal opinion about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They would have no problem publishing what the advice was.

And if the figures were in any doubt, the Israeli government would be using every opportunity to deny them, or provide their own, but that seems to be totally lost on some.

This will to down as one of the most atrocious events of this century and people like chuchu will be telling their grandkids that the history book they're studying is all wrong and it was all a conspiracy and a lie from Hamas.

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I am surprised at how so open some of their recent reporting has been and how they are freely discussing the humanitarian crisis in Gaza (at least the Israeli public and the regime fans in the West are in no position to plead ignorance of it, not when the Israeli press itself are reporting it).

Thats is just Hamas propaganda. Israel's retaliation is directed at Hamas members only.

And women and children and babies babies babies and international aid workers and journalists and Doctors Without Borders and

The figures are probably underestimated. There are 8,000 missing people under the rubble, many of them children. Israel know this and don't comment.

You think Israel aren’t kidnapping? Trust the internationals.