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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    https://thehill.com/homenews/4580429-house-democrat-on-naming-prison-after-trump-he-might-be-visiting-soon/



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I'm trying my best not to hope that Trump's block-headed arrogance will somehow still result in him losing his properties sooner rather than later. Trying not to hope that maybe over the course of the summer we could perhaps see those gold-plated Trump letters crowbared off Trump Tower, while Truth Social ends up bankrupt and to finish off the trifecta; Trump is maybe even crimanally charged over the hush-money thing.

    I'm trying not to hope that, because the Orange rapist has the Devil's own luck it seems. Something stupid will come along to give him a break…again. I will be surprised if he actually starts to face consequences. Plesantly shocked…but shocked nonetheless.

    With this hope I also have to wonder; if Trump lost the Trump Org, and was reduced to scraping the bottom of the now-spartan GOP funding barrel, could he still keep going? Already now, he's reduced the amounts of events or Trump rallys he's doing. He never really paid venues for even the 2016 rallies, but I'm guessing there is a whole host of practical day-to-day costs that you'd need just to make a rally happen, with cash on hand. My guess is that he's already critcally low on cash. If all of the things that should happen to him come to pass during the summer, what will he do?

    He can of course still rant on Social Media. Arguably this was the most impactful marketing tools he had in 2016, and in the Twitter days it was essentially free for him to use it (none of this Truth Social nonsense). The Trump Cultists will still rally around him, but will he have the means to reach any other voter? The Biden campaign has loads of cash, and their canditate isn't pouring the contents of the warchest into legal bills or payments. Could be very one-sided marketing on the US airwaves in the run up to November, with only one side with enough cash for adverts.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,324 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Presumably the stats are showing that even OAPs are swinging towards the Democrat vote; probably makes sense given an ageing population where the Boomers and GenX types start to die off. Nor is it surprising because on many key national issues the GOP are distinctly not representing the majority view … so of course given they're modus operandi is to have power at all costs, the solution is to make it harder for any and all people to actually vote.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Agree with you on the "I'll believe it when I see it" aspect of Trump actually feeling the consequences of his actions.

    However , if those consequences do come to bear , the impacts will be rapid and very significant.

    Trump entire business empire is a house of cards held together by layer after layer of loans and promissory notes and some very specific cash flow requirements.

    He claimed a few months ago to have ~$400M in cash/liquid assets and the general consensus was that that figure was probably about right.

    However the problem is that those assets largely cannot be touched as they are part of the terms & conditions for several of his loan agreements - Because he is deeply untrustworthy and has a long long history of stiffing lenders, his recent loans have come with stipulations that he hold X amount of liquid assets as collateral for the loans.

    If the bond fails to get sorted on Monday and the NY AG is given the go ahead to seize assets , she'll empty the bank accounts first as those are the cleanest and easiest to do.

    But - If he doesn't have that cash on hand , then he automatically defaults on multiple loans and be also has no money from which to pay the other loans which then starts the cascading effect of foreclosures and asset seizures.

    TL:DR - It actually won't take much to utterly destroy him , removing a single brick from his jenga stack business and the whole lot collapses around him.

    Post edited by Quin_Dub on


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Ah…yea….it all sounds so wonderful, and I really hope your nicely detailed description of how f*cked he is will come to pass. It's just that it's the hope that gets ya.

    I would delight at the prospect of a summer full of foreclosures and unending failure for a man who bar very few others would deserve all of the misfortune in the world rained upon them.

    If we're here next week looking at Trump's world collapse around him, I will gratefully toast your prediction. But again…I can't let it be real in my head until I actually see it happen.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Right there with you - until we see bailiffs changing the locks etc. I won't believe it either.

    He does seem to have an incredible ability to wriggle off the hook over and over for sure.

    But , a big big part of why he is fighting every little thing tooth and nail is that he knows how tenuous it all is , he knows that a single decent sized financial defeat and he is f*cked completely.

    Even the E Jean Carroll ruling - If he has to hand over that cash , the knock-on effects to his overall business are potentially catastrophic.

    If he loses that and the NY Fraud case his entire business "empire" is toast - He will lose everything* and there will be nothing left with the Trump name over the door.

    *Rich persons version of "losing everything".. He'll still be rich and lead a charmed life compared to you and me , but on a relative scale he'll have nothing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,412 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ah…yea….it all sounds so wonderful, and I really hope your nicely detailed description of how f*cked he is will come to pass. It's just that it's the hopethat gets ya

    Yup. Never underestimate how broken the US system already is (especially with about 70 million people still voting for the guy in 2020)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    We can take interim solace from the ongoing collapse of his nonsense "social media empire".

    Share price down another 9% today



  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭Stanley 1


    Trump is keeping very quite about DJT, is it possible he has already pulled a stroke on it before it hit the Nasdaq, the auditors are total shlte and look handpicked by him.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I doubt it, the SEC will be all over that stock.

    Also, he owns like 70% of the stock, if he was shifting any you'd see it in the volume.

    Part of the reason the stock price is all over the shop is that there are so few shares being traded and in such low volumes because it's all Mom & Pop MAGAs buying it and not the big trading desks



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,412 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Womp womp



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,278 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Have a watch of that legal eagle breakdown of it that I posted yesterday. The SEC certainly are not all over it and the whole fundamentals of the deal that took it public are as shady AF

    Post edited by duploelabs on


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,412 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,412 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Which dimension have I jumped into?



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,412 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It's almost like the prosecution requested a gag order and got it. And almost as if Trump's team thought they had a case for a gag order, they could similarly request one. Huh.

    https://www.mediaite.com/politics/donald-trump-sends-thank-you-to-incarcerated-felon-michael-avenatti-ahead-of-hush-money-trial/



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Plus I get the feeling Trump is more interested in other wars …. namely with Iran …. his presidential term was defined by doing all he could to try to get Iran to start a war … and he did everything he could to make sure Iran's then moderate govt failed …. you can be certain Trump will start a war with Iran the next time as there will be no Covid 19 and/or more moderate entities within his next admin to stop him ….

    The Republicans are obsessed with war …. especially against Muslim countries …. they seem to have accepted Russia as an equal partner especially as Trump seems to be a friend of Putin …. I can see some 'Iran for Ukraine' deal between them …. Russia gives up Iran and America gives up Ukraine …. America bombs Iran maybe even nukes to make it capitulate to a Versailles-like treaty and Russia does the same with Ukraine ….

    Anyone who boasts about being 'illiberal' is dangerous … Orban more or less made this term famous and he is one to watch …. those who proudly follow those who claim they are 'illiberal' are walking straight into dictatorship as illiberal literally means unfree …. it is clear very clear some do not stop and think what these words even mean !! Whether right or left does not matter as much as whether a person defines themselves as illiberal or not …. run a mile from anyone who boasts of being illiberal and never ever let them into power whether they claim to be illiberal right or illiberal left …. illiberal means they do NOT value freedom and democracy …..



  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Only of course the solution was NEVER found or found and kept anyway …. 45 years later this is still going on …. and Trump moreso than anyone else does all he can to keep animosity going between America and Iran …. a solution was found with Obama, Hassan Rouhani and JCPOA which served Iran and US well …. but then foambrain came into office and ruined that deliberately …. an Iran war would be the last thing the world needs and the one thing stuffngbrain Trump would give us for sure ….



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,618 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Perhaps Michael Avenatti is hoping for a second Trump term and a pardon?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Foambrain and stuffingbrain are new to me! Got any others? Rudepundit uses 'orange cockmite' which is a good one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I was referring only to the release of the hostages. I thought that was pretty clear.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trumps zombie army in the House killed a bill to re-authorise part of the FISA act yesterday.

    It had almost complete support until Trump truthed out "KILL FISA" and “IT WAS ILLEGALLY USED AGAINST ME, AND MANY OTHERS. THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN!!!”.

    So they voted changed their minds and voted against it.

    The only problem is that the bill they killed has nothing to do with the particular FISA act that Trump is complaining about. In fact Trump himself proudly announced his support for this variant when he signed it into law during his term.

    But , he heard "FISA" and vomited out nonsense and his pavlovian gimps responded..



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,856 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    the abortion video that trump put out last weekend has really backfired. The Arizona republicans have more or less told trump to **** off.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,498 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    For the first time in a long time Trump and Biden are neck and neck with the bookies for November



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It was a disaster even without the Arizona ruling but that has just metastasized it beyond measure.

    Trumps basic line was "something something States rights , please stop talking about this so we can lie and bullsh!t our way past the Election in November and then you can do what you want"

    Absolutely no-one bought that though and with Arizona it has just ensured that it will be the Top issue in November.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭randd1


    Isn't he in jail for fraud?

    No wonder trump likes him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,604 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It's amazing isn't it? Crows about how he's responsible for overturning Roe V Wade and giving the power to the states, but also he's not responsible for the states using that power in a way which was absolutely foreseen and obvious, and that's definitely a person who you should vote for as President.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭randd1


    If it works, it's all because of me. If there's something wrong with it, it's not because of me, even though it was my plan, but because they are destroying America.

    And people say he's not a politician!!

    Far from draining the swamp, he's become the swamp, and all the festering disgustingness that comes with it, bloated by his manky larvae, the MAGAtts.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The perfect blend of Arrogance , Hubris and Stupidity.

    Considers everything in terms of how it makes him feel/look in that moment , does not consider the implications or potential consequences of any of his actions - He needs the instant dopamine hit of feeling "awesome" so he takes it.

    The only information/actions that he is capable of retaining and planning for long term is revenge



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Rawr


    It really boggles the mind the block-headedness of some of the GOP (Donnie included natually). They could have used Roe v. Wade as a campaign point for years and years and years, and gleaned some good will from the Evangelical loons without actually doing anything about it.

    But then they went and killed Roe, and gave the hillbilly States the rights to do whatever swivel-eyed nonsense they fancied with reproducive rights. Even then…they could have just left it alone…but instead many of them went full Catholic Ireland on women's reproductive rights…and so here we are. We even have the nitwits publically declairing plans to try to make their abortion bans Federal.

    So they've gone and used up of an electoral carrot that they could have used until the end of time, and have now instead gifted the Dems a reason for people to vote Democrat.

    Their greatest ally this year would have been voter apathy, and I feel that they've bought themselves a double whammy of people voting against Anti-Choice policies and hated champion of them: Donald The Proven Rapist Trump.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Once they got the SCOTUS Majority , their ability to string the evangelicals along was severely weakened.

    They couldn't keep pretending that it was just out of reach any longer - They are the dog that finally caught the car - Chasing the car was fun , catching it not so much.

    On top of that you had State level nutters proposing utterly crazy extreme legislation in recent years that the rest of the GOP went along with safe in the knowledge that it wouldn't matter as the Federal courts would block it so they could keep the evangelicals in line.

    Then all of a sudden this stuff becomes law and they are scrambling as they have no idea what to do - They can't vote with Democrats to remove them because the hard right of the GOP would Primary them but they equally know they can't vocally support it either.

    They are screwed.



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