Now it's official: "Ireland needs a new right wing party".

I doubt it. Those sort of things are secondary considerations.

Take the healy raes for example. They've said some crazy stuff over the years. But they get elected not because of those crazy things but in spite of them. A lot of Irish politics is inherently local. The Healy Raes get elected because they are the epitome of a local politician. They get stuff done for the locals. And that's true of most independents. How they feel about immigration or trans rights is generally a secondary consideration.

Well no , there was nothing incorrect in that post you quoted and can't help using that language and not going to apologise for how I speak.

Think now you are just being a little too unfair . Bye .

I rarely ever delete previous posts when I make a mistake. I feel it's better to acknowledge the mistake rather than try to hide it.

people always say that. Everyone on the right always believes that there's secretly a majority of people who support them. they always think everyone else is at home all the time seething about immigrants.

Sorry if I'm dragging things off-topic… I saw "National Socialist Irish Workers Party" in the list above, and hadn't heard of them. I wondered "Is that the full name for what I knew as 'The Workers Party'? Surely they were to the left" No. No, it's not. Sweet Baby Jesus, have a look on Wikipedia or somewhere. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Thanks @Red Silurian , I know something I didn't know yesterday. Although maybe I wish I didn't.

Crime - Huge under-investment over the years in AGS resources, not sure how a right wing party specifically would help this

The ability to tackle crime has been underfunded in this country for years and there's been no party in office that has successfully dealt with the issue. In the past, this may have been a relatively trivial matter as most crime would have been of a low level when compared to other countries. But today, we have more serious crime to be countering with the likes of the criminal gangs we have operating here. Who's going to take steps to deal with that issue is anyone's guess. Even so, Ireland's crime issues are absolutely dwarfed by other nations. We should feel pretty lucky that we live in a country as safe as we do.

Immigration - We already have one of the toughest immigration policies in the EU. And with the new deal the other day it's only going to get tougher. Again I'm not sure how a right wing party specifically would change this. Most of them get confused between International protection, immigration and Asylum seekers

Right wing parties covet cheap labour. So any right winger looking for a party to completely nuke immigration is on a hiding to nothing. The political right may talk a big talk when it comes to immigrants, but in reality they end up doing very little and all the big talk is usually there to placate the more rabid members of their base. Take a look at Britain, for example, who've had the most right leaning iteration of the Tory Party that's ever existed there. Immigration has gone up under Tory rule, despite all their disingenuous drivel about Brexit and immigration. Likewise their Rwanda plan would only have seen a paltry number of immigrants deported, less than 300 people, and it would probably end up costing the taxpayer more than if those people were just allowed settle in the first place. Again, all just big talk with little realistic substance designed to salve the bigots that dwell within their voter ranks. A lot of those on the right long for the day when there's a complete lockdown of borders, but that day isn't going to come, no matter what party they vote for.

Also, a lot of those on the right aren't confused about International protection, immigration and Asylum seekers at all. They just don't care about the actual distinctions and are more than happy to lump everyone into the same narrow bracket.

That's not to say that there isn't a discussion to be had about our policies toward inward migration. There is. At present, we are taking in thousands and we haven't the facilities to deal with that. Our lack of public housing is at crisis point, our health situation is still "Angola" and our private renting sector is an absolute joke. Continuing to absorb the migrant numbers we do while our governments continue to ignore the very real problems with our public services and abandon their responsibilities toward them is a recipe for disaster.

Housing - There's always been a housing crisis in this country aside a handful of "bust" years, 2008 being the most recent

There hasn't always been a housing crisis in this country. Back when we actually built social housing units, you could be housed in a relatively quick time if you needed to take that route. But in just 30 years we've gone from being a nation that could house its population to one that has great difficult in doing so. The reasons for that are clear. We don't build social housing units any more and have offloaded our housing responsibilities entirely to private enterprise, who are only interested in bleeding that, so called, "market" dry. We're now at a point where a significant number of people will never be able to buy a home and will have to endure a waiting list of many years in order to qualify for a home on the public scheme if they have to chose that route. This was never the case before and it's a relatively new one in the state, ushered in by FF toward the end of Celtic Tiger years where they let housing prices get out of control and created an unstable housing bubble that was bound to come crashing down around our heads, which it did with disastrous effect in 2008. We're now back at that position with FG's policy of letting house prices sky rocket to the point where people have to hock themselves into debt until they're OAP's in order just to buy a modest home for themselves and their family. We have a thoroughly unreasonable housing policy in this country that's a national shame and even higher income earners are now feeling the pinch with regards to it, especially when their kids turn to them and ask where they're going to live.

Our entire philosophy towards housing in this country needs to change, but the fact is that philosophy will never come from the right. It's right wing politics and attitudes to "markets" that has us in the state we are in with regards to housing and it's very doubtful that they'll be the ones that will have the political will to change it. We need to build public housing units to cool the jets of our grossly overheated housing market, otherwise we're looking at another pop and no right wing political entity is interested in that, especially those of the Neo-liberal persuasion.

But the reality is that FFG has put us into such a deep, deep, mess with our housing that it looks impossible for us to get out of it, no matter what party promises what. FG just don't give a damn, FF are a like a deer caught in the headlights with no idea what to do and SF will promise the sun, moon and stars but it's doubtful they have a realistic solution either. To my mind, none of them will be able to solve the disaster that FFG have placed us in. FF screwed the country with their laissez faire attitude toward housing and FG have let the particular pot boil over again. Now they're looking like their going to jump ship and leave that mess for someone else to try and clean up.

Crime in our immediate next door neighbour dwarfs our issues. Crime in France does too. We're a very safe country by and large.

People with no travel documents literally stroll into the country

Interesting, how do they stroll to an island exactly? Are they coming from Northern Ireland? Fairly sure you don't need travel docs for the CTA

Widespread abuse by immigrants of English language schools.

EU immigrants who can't support themselves: instead of removing them, we house them and provide welfare (see the Puskas)

EU immigrants operating organised begging gangs in our faces, daily, and nothing done about it.

3 very strong claims… Do you have proof of these claims? Also what are see the Puskas?

But in any case, I'm interested to hear your opinion on what you think a right wing govt would change about any of this?