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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2024 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭dionsiseire


    Thanks for that. So is the battery being filled with solar or night rate (I get EV night rate 8c 2am-6am) got any value at all? Installer 3 was basically steadfast on without battery it's pointless. I guess if solar is strong during day I pay nothing, at night if the battery is filled with free or 8c electricity to try basically get to a 24hr scenario where the electricity I'm using costs at most, 8c?

    Is the 2 inverters in the attic with 2 different types of panels ever an issue as he described? Like am I better paying more and getting everything the same? I can't really tell why I would get rid of the existing 5 if they work. So that's my biggest conundrum.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭tech


    Looking at getting solar and ave a few quotes, just wondering is it worth €2000 for a 5Kw battery ??



  • Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭conor_mc


    charge at 8c on an EV tariff, instead of paying 32c (minimum) during daytime, for say 4kWh per day at 80% depth of discharge. (.32-.8) x 4 €0.96 savings per day. 2k / 0.96 is about 5.7 years payback. Battery warranty probably 10 years, but could well last longer than that at <80% capacity. Tariff rates may vary. Also using daytime electricity at higher cost than a non-smart tariff will erode your savings. Solar charging will enhance them, but I’d consider that a bonus myself.

    Depending on household usage I think 5kWh might be too small tbh, because a family will tip over the 5kWh into the more expensive day rates on EV tariffs. 10kWh at €4k could be better value, I suspect.



  • Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Just to remember that you can charge that battery on the EV rate but the sun will also keep charging it again as you use it during the day so on most decent days you will most likely get 7-8kwh out of it.

    Personally I think on a smaller system like mine a battery is vital to keep off the expensive day rates as it kicks in to help the load during the day whenever the solar isn't enough.

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,694 ✭✭✭deezell


    Don't forget to factor in charge/discharge/inverter losses. You'll pay for 5 units to get 4 or less usable back at the plug.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭conor_mc


    fair point, that’s why I left solar charging as a bonus, it should at least net out against any daytime EV tariff usage and round-trip losses.



  • Registered Users Posts: 760 ✭✭✭PGL


    Hi All

    Thanks for your feedback. I've accepted quote 1 (4.15kWp; €4,500 after grant; Cost per kWp: €1,082; Solar Panels: Jolywood NIWA Pro Series -JW-HD108N-415 (6nr panels south facing and 4nr east facing - I can't squeeze in any more); Inverter: Afore 5kW Hybrid HNS5000HS) with the system due to be installed before the end of the month. I had initially decided that I would park the idea of getting a battery until a later date, but I'm now reconsidering. The company I've gone with are quoting me €2350 to add on a 5kWh Sunwoda Energy MonaWall 5 battery. What's people's thoughts on: a) the cost?; b) this particular battery?; and c) the current general thinking around batteries?. I'm willing to dive into the whole grid shifting space with a battery assuming that it makes sense from a pay back perspective, and also assuming it will be reasonably easy for me to toggle with the settings of the battery - note I have no experience of working with batteries, inverters etc!

    All feedback is welcome

    Many thanks!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭dionsiseire


    So I've been trying to get a few quotes and I'm wondering if Installer C's quotes here seem weirdly off to people?

    First 4 quotes are Panels no Battery. The first 2 leave my existing 5 panels in place, the second to rip them down and full replace with all same panels.

    The second set is with a battery. It seems 3k less than the other quotes with batteries and the first 2 battery quotes are 5kw, that last one the quote says 9.5kw.

    How should I approach this. Don't want a cowboy installer, but I can't see how I turn down 16 fresh panels and a 9.5kw battery at that much cheaper than others.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Don't worry about stuff being made in china, vast majority of solar equipment is made there



  • Registered Users Posts: 760 ✭✭✭PGL




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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,694 ✭✭✭deezell


    Quote 1 for the value and RoI (wholesale unit rates only 8c, so how long before utilities cut retail, which means extra years to get your money back). Battery might never pay for itself if rates drop



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭con747


    Price looks ok with or without battery but the battery is a little expensive so try haggle. Not familiar with the brands but a quick google doesn't bring up any red flags. I wouldn't be without batteries but that's because of a lot of power cuts and I can run the house off them in one. A rough guide to pricing here. http://davidhunt.ie/solar/

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Got my deposit back from that well known outfit in the border area , took three weeks from I cancelled and several phone calls



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭con747


    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Got my fifth quote today, living west of the Shannon doesn't place one favourably for value

    Guy recommended I go for sixteen of the 430 panels and a 10kw Battery

    Even I opted for the 5kw , that's €11600 after grant

    David Hunt costed the 5 kw with 16 panels at slightly above nine grand

    Our usage for 2023 , we have an EV and do about twenty five thousand km per year



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭fletch


    For an 8 (430w) panel system, what size inverter would I need? (I am requesting a 5kw but the installation company is saying 3kw is fine)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭con747


    It depends, are all panels on the same orientation or split into 2 strings with different orientations? Do you intend adding panels in the future?

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    3kw is fine, but if your thinking about further expansion I'd go for the 5kW



  • Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    if you're so inclined you could potentially add another two panels to the array. but it depends on what make/model of inverter they quoted and of course if you've got the space?

    i have a 5kW Solis Hybrid inverter. it can handle up to 8000W so looking at the panels voc and wattage i knew i could go with a maximum of 19 panels (410w) which sized my array at 7.79kW, just inside the "recommended" maximum size array for the inverter.

    if its possible then i'd highly recommend requesting the extra two panels. worst case you'll just start clipping a bit earlier in the year than it would normally do.

    🌞 7.79kWp PV System. Comprised of 4.92kWp Tilting Ground Mount + 2.87kWp @ 27°, azimuth 180°, West Waterford 🌞



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Im thinking of not bothering with a battery, 16 panels ( 6.96 kw ) and an Eddi diverter

    We are on a flat rate, we use a lot of power during the day and can charge car during daylight hours



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  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    What do you think of the quote?, it's €8400 for sixteen panels but he has the 5kw battery down at €3200 as an optional extra



  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    This guy claims going more than sixteen involves additional changes



  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭kyleman


    10 x 430w panels.

    5kw Huawei inverter.

    Eddi inverter

    €8000 before grant.

    Not sure if its good.

    Post edited by kyleman on


  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Provider in Galway

    16 jinko 435 W producing 6.96 kwp with Eddi ( no battery)

    €8400 after grant



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 cmcn7


    Hello, I just got a quote for solar PV on standard pitched roof and would love any opinions on it:

    18 panels: Topco TP415PMB7-44SCF

    One battery: Inverter - Solis Hybrid inverter with 1 no. 5kWh Battery.
    EH1 Energy Storage 5kW Hybrid 5G Inverter Fox ESS Battery

    Shunt isolator

    Mounting system - roof hooks

    Price includes extra fuse board as no room in existing

    Location: dublin

    Price: €11,150 minus €2100 grant = €9,050

    All thoughts welcome!



  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭reggie3434


    seems really good deal



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 cmcn7


    Thanks v much for the reply!



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭SodiumCooled


    A limitation of the system he is supplying or untrue. I am having 24 panels (total 10.1kwp) and no optimisers though it will have a 10kwh battery to take the excess.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk




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  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭gym_imposter




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