Munster Team Talk Thread - New season title pending....

Every news update I can find says the IRFU and Munster have agreed a “new 1 year deal with the province”.

There’s no mention of it being a Central contract explicitly as far as I have found.

There may be some top-up arrangement though, that might come out eventually.

You post makes a great case for someone who is clearly lacking your call for 'honesty' or 'introspection'.

You ask about Leinster losing starters, while Munster hasn't yet lost a single one. Presuming Beirne is starting then one or your second row 'world cup winners' is on the bench. Munster chose which one they preferred to keep. The other player you've lost was deemed to be the 3rd string OH by Munster coaches.

You complain about Munster not being allowed to sign Synman to his third NIQ contract. What NIQs from other provinces have been allowed to sign to their third contract?

If you showed some introspection, rather than attempted provincial points scoring about Harry and Sam (who has never even been in the full Irish camp), you'd acknowledge that Munster's own Crowley was fast tracked at an incredible pace in the last 18 months by Farrell and from all evidence he backed the right horse over Healy.

Introspection would also include the awareness to acknowledge that the IRFU also does plenty of positive things to help Munster, like dropped an international IQ test quality TH into your team just a few months ago - can't remember the last province to get that sort of great deal.

If you're going to ignore the positives and then look at only the most negative slant on every scenario then of course you're going to feel badly treated.

We are losing our bench lock, bench tight-head, and very likely our bench centre at the end of the season and they're just the ones we know of at this point.

We will feel it, but this is just the nature of pro sport. Other guys will come in or step up and on we go, just like they will at Munster.

Edit: in fact, I assume Jenkins will move on too so that's both our back-up locks departing.

Iv not at any point suggested the irfu have done nothing positive. Dont put words in my mouth

Jenkins is gone, back to SA

Maby irelands starting 10 can get a part funded deal next. Thanks irfu no its fine pay backup second rows instead.

I haven't gone on and on about every single thing that didn't go perfectly for Leinster, compiling them into a list of grievances like your previous post, making a huge deal about them, and twisting all blame away from the province and towards the IRFU.

At this stage even though things might annoy me, I am aware that **** happens to every province and the outside factors generally balance out over time with positive things from them - be it in players (like Jager) or special allowances (additional NIQs).

I'd say the same thing if there were a bunch of fans in that Leinster thread pointing the finger at the IRFU for Molony departing blaming Farrell because he wasn't in most Irish squads and picking up caps over the years, despite being a regular starter for Leinster, including last year's CC final. There aren't people doing that though.

You're here claiming others lack 'introspection' while over a year later still complaining that the third choice OH made his own decision to leave to get game time both at club and international level, as both his provincial and international coach had picked a younger guy from his own province ahead of him - who to this day is still significantly outperforming him, showing all parties made the right choice.

Ben healy wasn't third choice, munster contacted oli jager for years not the irfu, what additional niqs are you talking about.

Molonys the only near Leinster starter not in irish teams because he has two other Irish internationals ahead of him.

Bar the two Leinster 10s we cap and the Leinster 12 we cap as a 10. Found a fix there

Capped as a 21 year old with 19 mins of champions cup experience, sams now been called into the irish squad with about 400 mins of senior rugby not sure what the commonality is there