Now it's official: "Ireland needs a new right wing party".

You'd need to be detached from reality to claim that immigration isn't a left wing issue.

Yes right leaning parties push for migration to keep labour costs low so as to court the pro-business vote. But by on large the further you go on the right the more hostile attitudes to migration become and the further you go on the left the more accepting attitudes are towards migration.

Our current issues are driven by the ideological push on the left for a more multicultural Ireland and bringing in ever more liberal policies on migration to achieve this.

Not sure is this in relation to crime or immigration policies but it's generally Irish scrotes who I see causing the trouble around Dublin city centre. Tbh, the only reason the city feels semi-safe is because of the large international contingent.

There's a lad on Twitter "Dubs Life" who keeps posting videos seemingly to try and whip up anti-immigration sentiment but all you see/hear is pasty white skin and thick Dub accents in every single video he posts.

What I mean it's not SOLELY a left wing like those on the right would like you to believe. The left are generally in in favour of free movement of people because they see it as a human right, not because of any push for "multiculturalism", that's a load of bollocks. The right, on the other hand, are generally in favour of the free movement of cheap labour.

And, agreed, the further right you go you do, indeed, encounter bigots and racists who "more hostile" to migration.

Jaysus

Least surprising line of the article

founded in 1968 in Dublin by 26-year-old  Terence Allan-Byrne, a self-employed decorator who lived with his mother

Can't read that link .What is it ?

Thanks .

Jeez that is one I never heard of!

Would not want to be confusing that with the Socialist Workers Party !

Beware those with 'National ' emblazoned in their title ..

British National Front

National Socialist German Workers Party ..Nazi party

The National Party . current Irish zealots .

Well, I suppose if there's a statistically significant portion of the population who feel they aren't well represented by those parties.

For example, in the abortion referendum, I voted "yes". But off the top of my head, I think approx. one third of the population voted "no". If that demographic was to vote in a general election based on their views in that referendum, what party gain the support? And if such a party was to gain that vote, would we be better off? I'd like to think such a party would be somewhat centrist, but i don't think there is such an option.

Basically, I worry generally that a lack of moderate options might lead to a more extreme outcome in the longer term.

(1) some illegal immigrants come through NI, yes, some come through Dub airport. No documents = illegal immigrant.

And they stroll to Dublin airport from whatever country they're coming from, amazing

Can you believe that not only do we let them in, we house them, and provide medical cards?

You mean like we do to Irish people, crazy to think we're helping these people at the time of their most need!

A sensible Govt would not let them past the port of entry.

You're suggesting we should leave them at the gates of the plane? Would that not clog up the departures lounge and prevent us from leaving the country?

(3) The Jozef Puska case is well known

Yes it is, however I wasn't sure what you meant by "see the Puskas." Not sure what you're saying.... Are you suggesting all immigrants are murderers or that we should leave the EU to stop slovakians coming in? Initially it was about welfare, important to note that when he came over he worked on building sites so wasn't on welfare. Not sure what the rest of his family do for a living, do you know?

(4) the organised begging gangs are visible daily on the streets of Galway, and I'm sure elsewhere.

And how do you know they're organised begging gangs? Did you ask them?

All of this is known, reported, yet the Govt does nothing.

Can you possibly point me to any of the reports about people strolling to Dubin airport, Puskas family income or these organised begging gangs?

So is this thread still about right-wing parties or is it an anti-immigrant rant now?

The percentage of people who have moderate right non-religious views are tiny though.

Immigration is not a left or right issue. Take China an actual left wing country which is one of the most difficult places on Earth to move to full time. Or North Korea which is completely closed off to outsiders or Cuba or Venezuela where immigration is practically non existant. Are you really trying to tell us that back in Iron Curtain days the countries under the thumb of the Soviets had "more accepting attitudes towards migration"

Immigration isn't a right or left issue. Its based on the extremity of your political position. Far to the right or left you will accept no migration whereas those towards the centre will hold a much different viewpoint.

There's a reason a political party of that persusain doesn't exist in Ireland while political parties that are further right or right and religious do exist.

As I said above. The closest party we've had like that were the PDs and even though they weren't religious, they were strongly anti-abortion.