General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

Do we really still think United’s problems have anything to do with the expectations at the club?

In fairness at the time Moyes looked every bit as good as Emery does now.

Doesn't matter really as United's problems have nothing got to do with the manager.

In what sense ?

Moyes was very highly regarded when United appointed him.

you really want City to win the league again, while I get you happy bout result

This the same Emery that failed at Arsenal?

Guess he and Moyes do have something in common.

He did quite well at Arsenal today

Moyes has beaten Arsenal twice this season.

I guess you were right, "They’re basically the exact same if you really think hard about it."

City will most likely win the treble again this season, which is a sobering thought and should focus the minds of anyone who thinks the 115 charges against them is a frivolous notion or some sort of witch hunt with no foundation in fact.

Every trophy they win regardless of how wonderful Guardiola is as a coach, has been won by thumbing their nose at the rules everyone else has been following, in City's owners minds, like a bunch of idiots.

These so called title races that break down at every April, are showing that the Premier League is just fur coat and no knickers.

Moyes did have a very good rep prior to going to united but people did also question his style. he was linked with the spurs job at the time too but they stepped away due to his style.

I think Emery is a far more proven manager in terms of style and success now than Moyes was at Everton, he probably was prior to going to Arsenal too.

As a United fan, I would be delighted if we appointed emery in the summer; not that i think there is any chance of it.

Only for Liverpool winning it in 19/20 it would be six in a row for city. Grim

I'm a United fan and I'd rather have seen Arsenal or (reluctantly) Liverpool win it. Asterisk, schmasterisk - they won't get punished, other clubs will use the same tricks, and the charges will be forgotten in a few years. In a few weeks Sheikh Mansour will be dancing around with the PL trophy and probably the Champions League too.

Obviously there's alway going to be some imbalance in football, look at Bayern winning 11 in a row, but what City are doing stinks and if United can't stop them, I'd be happier seeing some other proper football club trip them up.

They are not in tge Champions League yet afaik, still some way to go in that race. I hope they do go on to reach it, but it's not certain yet.

Yes there is a lot of recency bias after the Arsenal result, and given the history with Emery and Arsenal I guess. Emery is a good coach, and had done a good job at Villa. They've spent heavily over the last few years, but probably spent well, and I've seen estimates of their wages at #6 in tge league, so overall they are there they ought to be, or slightly above it.

They do need to finish strong. Be good to see them in the top Euro competition again.

Was there not a post here recently that identified that Villa were walking a tightrope re: FFP though? With them likely having to sell to balance the books?

Apologies if that wasn't on here, but I definitely read it a couple of weeks back that they were up there for being the next club potentially in bother. Maybe thats changed or inaccurate in the first place & hands up if that is the case.

Always felt Emeri got a bit of a poisoned chalice at Arsenal, whomever came in to replace Wenger was always going to be under a significant spotlight, he had a decent start & IMO made the right decision the year they got to the Europa League final v Chelsea to go for silverware ahead of league position, though I know many disagreed with that decision. He struggled in the second season but was dealing with an awful mixed bag of a squad & suspect he got nothing like the freedom to change it up the way Arteta has.

Was disgusted with the way the media mocked his accent and attempted to belittle him when in reality he's a first class coach IMO.Delighted to see him doing well post Arsenal, I certainly as a gooner have no axe to grind there at all.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/15/everton-administration-fears-777-takeover-doubt/

Looks like Everton could be in serious trouble if this deal isn't sorted out.

Palmer is definitely winning Young Player of the Year but I reckon he's in with a good chance to win POTY too. Some season he's having

For which goal?? 🤔

The 3rd one,obviously, but could have done better for #2 (a bad parry) and even the first one, I only saw it once but looked like a very casual of accurate shot from Palmer.

Hard to believe this guy is still England's #1!

Not there yet but he is close. He could pass out these players yet this season.

9 penalties from 20 PL goals is 45% of all Palmer's goals being penalties.

Bruno Fernandes first 18 months saw him score 13 penalties (4+9) from his first 26 PL goals (50%) after arriving in January.

From memory, the highest number of penalties scored, relevant to the most number of goals overall would be Andy Johnson who scored 11 penalties to make up his 21 PL goals in 2004/2005. That's just over 52%.

Obviously you'll have some players who scored 7 or 8 in a season but that might be their total amount so it'd not really relevant to this. Is there anyone higher than Johnson?

Everton are in a tailspin.