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Iran has come out of the shadows and attacked Israel directly. **Read OP before posting**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭ittakestwo


    This is true and not admotted much.i know an Israeli and they admitted they dont see palestinians as anything more than animals.

    Brits had the same attitude towards the irish when Ireland was colonised. If you can justify in your head they're only animals then you can carry out your colonial atrocities and not feel guilt



  • Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭dbas


    Both countries did exactly what they wanted to do.

    Still Iran gets described as despotic/ religious nuts etc.

    They've shown more dignity than Israel/ USA/ UK altogether



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Or, maybe images of military airbases aren't something any country wants spread all over the Internet?



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    Israel attacked a consulate, you don't attack a consulate ( it's the same as attacking the country itself)

    They damn well knew Iran would have to respond directly.

    Israel seriously miscalculated here in an attempt to force Iran into direct action, all because they were losing global support in Gaza.

    Biden publicly refusing to to support a retaliation strike is very telling

    ⛥ ̸̱̼̞͛̀̓̈́͘#C̶̼̭͕̎̿͝R̶̦̮̜̃̓͌O̶̬͙̓͝W̸̜̥͈̐̾͐Ṋ̵̲͔̫̽̎̚͠ͅT̸͓͒͐H̵͔͠È̶̖̳̘͍͓̂W̴̢̋̈͒͛̋I̶͕͑͠T̵̻͈̜͂̇Č̵̤̟̑̾̂̽H̸̰̺̏̓ ̴̜̗̝̱̹͛́̊̒͝⛥



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    antisemitic claptrap. The west admits nothing, but fascist telegraph fans echo this like jackbooted parrots.

    Here's a hint for you: Israel's going nowhere. The US could abandon them, and they're still going nowhere.

    So, move on with your spew.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭concerned_tenant


    Israel attacked a consulate with a military commander inside, after Iran helped orchestrate the October 7 events that led to the current war.

    You make out that Israel attacked the Iranian consulate on a whim.

    To flip your point around: Iran knew "damn well that Israel would have to respond directly. Iran seriously miscalculated here in an attempt to force Israel into direct action".



  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭engineerws


    Iran says it warned Israel in advance to prepare while us saying not true.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iranian-notice-attack-may-have-dampened-escalation-risks-2024-04-14/

    I don't know who to believe. It's hard to believe the us, I'd guess their complaint is that Iran didn't name every exact location but who knows. Any ideas?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭brickster69


    US shot down 80 drones and at least 6 ballistic missiles during the attack

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    There's always some kind of high value targets in and out of embassies and consulates. You attack one and you may as well have attacked Terhan (or the capital of whichever country you are fighting)

    It was a calculated step by Israel to force a direct response by Iran.

    ⛥ ̸̱̼̞͛̀̓̈́͘#C̶̼̭͕̎̿͝R̶̦̮̜̃̓͌O̶̬͙̓͝W̸̜̥͈̐̾͐Ṋ̵̲͔̫̽̎̚͠ͅT̸͓͒͐H̵͔͠È̶̖̳̘͍͓̂W̴̢̋̈͒͛̋I̶͕͑͠T̵̻͈̜͂̇Č̵̤̟̑̾̂̽H̸̰̺̏̓ ̴̜̗̝̱̹͛́̊̒͝⛥



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    No way ... you are telling me Iran had an Iranian general in an Iranian consulate ??!?!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    What warning did they need ? You could almost book a last minute flight into Israel and see it live ...



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,406 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    An Embassy being deliberately bombed is a war crime.

    No its not.

    Do you care about international law or do you just think "fcek it, I'll just invent scenaria and preferential outcomes depending on which way the wind blows on any given day"?

    I do, but I also live in the real world.

    Iran supplying and arming its proxies in Gaza (Hamas), Lebanon (Hezbollah), and Yeman (Houthis) is the biggest factor in the destabilising of the region. I note you do not condemn Iran for its own breaches of International Law, such as the attack on Saturday night. People honestly do not know how depraved the regime is.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Here we go again ! Not one sanction placed on Israel yet.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Northernlily


    Israel must have all the western leaders compromised. That's all I can think off. Their influence in the face of being absolute shithouse troublemakers astounds me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    What about chapter 51? Israel made the claim it was used as a base for terrorism. I don't know about you but that seem dubious to me and even if is true, does that mean other nations embassies are legitimate targets seeing as spies often operate out of embassies who are sometimes carrying out hostile acts against other nations. I wonder what would the reaction would be if an Israeli consulate building was attacked because the attackers claimed mossad were planning a secret operation harmful to another country out of it. The attack on the consulate sets a dangerous precedent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭threeball


    Israel have been leveraging the horrors of the halocaust to their advantage since the state was founded. Everyone is terrified to critisise for fear of being called antisemitic and this has allowed Israel to carry out acts that are equally as despicable as those that were visited on the Jews and others in WWII. There's no hiding it. Israel have shown themselves to be just as callous and cruel as the Nazis.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I see David Cameron condemned Iran for seeking to destabilise the region . Did he think the attack on the consulate building in Syria was intended to stabilise the region



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    First part yes

    Second, comparison to Nazi actions? Cop on FFS.

    ⛥ ̸̱̼̞͛̀̓̈́͘#C̶̼̭͕̎̿͝R̶̦̮̜̃̓͌O̶̬͙̓͝W̸̜̥͈̐̾͐Ṋ̵̲͔̫̽̎̚͠ͅT̸͓͒͐H̵͔͠È̶̖̳̘͍͓̂W̴̢̋̈͒͛̋I̶͕͑͠T̵̻͈̜͂̇Č̵̤̟̑̾̂̽H̸̰̺̏̓ ̴̜̗̝̱̹͛́̊̒͝⛥



  • Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Is anyone familiar with a Mark Humphreys on twitter?

    What's his deal, is he an Israeli paid shill or just an out and out oddball ?

    Claims to be a college lecturer but spends about sixteen hours per day defending the IDF unconditionally, kind of guy who'd defend the IDF if they attacked the GPO in Dublin



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Notice never compared to other historically monstrous regimes - Khmer, China, England in Kenya or other places. Nope. Got to rub the Nazis in. Wonder why..



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Once again US Intelligence has not made a determination of direct Iranian involvement in the October 7th attacks. If they were involved directly the Americans would not be shy to declare it. Israel would have bombed Tehran days after October 7th too. It helps your argument to state that they were , but it doesn't make it true



  • Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    They have far and away the richest diaspora on earth who control the media and much of the financial sector in America, it's got very little to do with Epstein's having compromising pics



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Maybe you could tell this to others who keep talking about Israel being under an existential threat. If it wasn't apparent already,the Iranian attack shows Iran is no match for Israel militarily. They had to been seen to do something but warned other nations and when the attack was finished let everyone know that they considered the matter done because they are keen to avoid an escalation. They know that the IDF can unleash havoc on Tehran and their military can do nothing to stop it . As I said before rather than the popular depiction of the mad mullahs being driven by religious fanaticism, their actions on the international stage demonstrate they are motivated by self preservation- they don't want to appear weak to a domestic audience, but at the same time they do not want a war, as their economy is a basket case already and a war could well threaten their hold on power. If it was really all about Jihad they wouldn't let these earthly concerns bother them- they'd be happy for an all out war and to receive a glorious martyrdom in the inevitable defeat to Israel.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Israel's under existential threat daily. Fortunately they have Iron Dome. Imagine if it fails.

    Anyway, saying move Israel to Wyoming or whatever is antisemitic, full stop.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,742 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Such statements about moving Israel have no basis in reality. The intent might be there, but no adversary has the ability to threaten the existence of Israel

    The iron dome won't fail and Israel have other state of the art defense systems too. They are by far the dominant power in the region and are also backed by the most powerful army in the world .

    The state of Israel as you said is going nowhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,760 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Iran comes out of this well. They told all the parties exactly what their intentions were and gave them warning. Totally unlike another shower who told people to leave an area that was going to be bombed, told them where to go, and then bombed them when they got there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    Fire a few rockets kill nobody = sanctions

    Murder 30,000 people the majority innocents = we will keep selling you weapons to do it

    The UK and US are sick sick regimes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭concerned_tenant


    There is abundant evidence that Iran green-lighted the attack on Israel, the scale of which could not have happened without Iran nor their approval.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,825 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Since when is 170 drones, 30+ cruise missiles and more than 120 ballistic missiles 'a few rockets'?

    That's quite a big bloody salvo of things being fired at Israel. The 'kill nobody' was nothing to do with Iran's intent and all to do with how good Iron Dome is.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The Jewish chronicle is a tabloid rag of a paper, random nutters on X have about the same credibility as thejc



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