?????? v Trump (and one or two others) The US Presidential election 2024. Read OP before posting

I don't think Trump will actually be willing to do debates tbh.

You can hardly just blame the right wing for the current state of american politics? The left are just as responsible. The Democrats are just as dysfunctional as the Republicans. They are just as crazy as each other and leap further and further to the extremes each year.

... And yet the democrats have had consistently higher share of the vote for around 20 years at this stage. Gerrymandering and the perversions of the electoral system are the only reason that the Republicans are still in the race at all.

Ah yes student debt forgiveness versus a president egging on an insurrection and attempting to coerce a foreign leader to provide dirt on a political opponent. Biden has been a rational political leader. Trump amounted to narcissism and incendiary on a constant basis. They're absolutely not like for like.

The GOP have largely mirrored Trump too.

If They happen at all. Trump probably thinks he has it won just like the Primaries and that he does not need to do debates with Biden.

IIt US a sad state of affairs alright in Anerica still it coukd be worse. Elon Musk ir that Rapper could have been running you know the one who supported Trump. They are both just as bad as Trump or worse even as at least Musk is intelligent and clever in some ways but a bit stone mad crazy ain others like buying Twitter really was not his best move.

Would Fox have anyone still on their books who would be fairly impartial if they hosted a debate? Neil Cavuto, maybe? Chris Wallace, who hosted the Fox 2020 debate, seemed to hark back to the old days of news in America, when the news was delivered by someone in a suit for half an hour without any editorial comment. Since he left, they no longer have someone of that calibre.

Biden will want to have a debate. His whole thing is about politics being normal, so he'll call for the usual trappings of an American presidential election. Trump doesn't seem that interested in appealing to the middle ground, whatever may be left of it, so I don't really know how much use he'll see in debating him. 50/50 that he just drops another interview with Tucker Carlson on X while Biden does a town hall on CNN.

what are you basing that on?

Trump has been calling for debates again for weeks while Biden rebuffs of course Trump does “he has nothing better to do”

I don't think Biden would call for debates by literally saying he wants to maintain political normalcy, but just because he is supposed to be the traditional candidate who is adhering to protocol and protocol for the last 7 or 8 decades in the US has included a round of debates between the two leading candidates. Biden not wanting to have a debate would imply from him that he doesn't think any dialogue can be had and even though that may be true, it's a grim message to send to potential voters who may want Biden and the Democrats to fend off MAGA craziness in the short term but also reestablish some sort of political normality in the long, and that's something that common sense would tell us is going to be difficult to achieve if not even token efforts are made to reach out to the other side.

Biden should absolutely call loudly for debates, and if they don't happen he should repeat over and over that Trump is a coward who won't face him. That sort of simplistic messaging is exactly what gets through to a large swath of US voters. No matter what excuses are thrown around it will still eat at them that their guy is a coward.

Not much else to say if we can't point out the rather large elephant in the room regarding one of the candidates.

Trumps calendar is very busy so I don't think he'll be able to fit in an in person debate.

vigour and energy - it’s all relative. On the law of averages one of them has to have more vigour and energy than the other but is there a major difference between them?. Apart from the vigour and energy issue what would concern me more is what Trump might spout out with all that V and E

His rallies invariably involve long tangents that make little to no sense. So comparing to the state of the union is fair. The latter was incredibly well received while the Trump rallies amount to two hours of raving.

And the fact that Trump is falling asleep during his own criminal trial is pretty telling.

Trump is also evil, vindictive, petty, spiteful, mendacious and narcissistic in addition to being an old mumbly f*ck, with no business near the Oval Office.

Unfortunately, there are people who would want to see him elected again just so they could watch a replay of your one on her knees screaming, "NOOOOOO!!!", and would take that even in exchange for the worst vision of what Trump would try to do with his time back in office.

Pretty short-sighted.

Like he was the saviour from 2016-2020 when he threw away the election win by his incompetent handling of covid, costing American lives in the process?

Trump's plan for Ukraine is to let Russia run riot with it. But somehow that wouldn't be 'weak' to you. How that is 'weak' compared to what Biden is actually doing you are unable to explain.

Trump's plan for Gaza was to let Israel 'finish the job', whatever that means. How that is 'weak' compared to what Biden is doing? Biden just deployed US forces to protect Israel to try to de-escalate tensions.

Those are self discrediting contradictions you end up posting when you echo MAGA propaganda / social media cues.

without any signs huh

https://news.yahoo.com/dimbulb-trump-torched-rambling-attempt-042438659.html

I don’t find you credible.

Trump couldn’t even do a live address after the January 6 attack. I know which I’m more concerned with.

Biden didnt start any wars. Thats just sound bite propaganda to dupe the ignorant.

Trumps approach is to stand back and let Russia massacre Ukraine without the US helping Ukraine defend itself.

Does that make Trump a "massacre monger" by your standard?

As for calling Biden crazy, thats self discrediting nonsense thats not fooling anyone paying attention.

While being majorly out raised by Biden, Trump instead of using campaign funds to campaign, is funneling it back into his businesses

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/18/trump-campaign-funnels-money-to-his-businesses/73344744007/

Current polling only reflects the core base of both parties because the 40% independents don't declare until election day. So either party having a poll lead at this stage means zip.

When it comes closer to the day most of those independent will hold their noses and go with Biden because putting crazy back into the whitehouse is good for no one.

Its going to be brutal and the more time trump spends in court the brutal it will get for him. No one likes the look of a felon in a position where their known grifting will hurt their country and their own pocket.

Brutal.