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My autonomous lawn mower thread/blog

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    New gearbox went in to this two weeks ago after less than three years, the agent even says Kress are far better than Stihl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I'd cover than entire area with some plastic. My own robo has a pop cover over its controller area.

    That looks like designed obsolescence.

    Cover it before it fails it will last far longer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    Question for all experts/experienced users.

    I have a ~ half acre of lawn it is separated roughly into three equal halves!!! by the driveway.

    what mower would people recommend that would be able to navigate the driveway and be able to mow that size?

    would two or three of the parkside mowers, be better than one named brand?

    Would prefer not to have to put down wire but having said that the lawns are fairly straight forward without many obstacles.

    If anyone could recommend an installer in east Galway it would be appreciated

    thanks in advance



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Google a garden machinery business in ahascragh

    GC is initials , robot mower guy is a surly pole but knows his stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Simple is best, complex is worst.

    Why not start with 1 parkside first and see how you go.

    If you can lie a wire on the ground and tap a peg over it you are good to install.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    I don't have Luba 2, but I do have Luba 1. Didn't think they were shipping the 2 to Ireland just yet, but maybe their dealer here has them?

    From my bit or reading people's experience with the 2, they shipped the first lot before the camera was enabled so it was essentially the same as 1. The camera is on now but the software needs refinement.

    The typical Irish one off house has a good big garden, unshaded and wide open so the 2's added advantage of visual navigation doesn't add a lot. The visual is great though if you have narrow passageways with high structures that limit the view of the sky.

    As for mowing performance, luba is very good though the turning algorithm is hard on the ground. I was newfangled with it last season and to be honest I sent it out a bit too often and when it it was a bit too wet. The way luba turns (especially the original KS version which I have) can tear up the ground, though the improved wheels have helped in that regard. Because it mows in a pattern it should get sent out a lot less often than the random wired mower - at most, twice a week, changing mowing direction between mows. I only have him back it this week at it was too wet to have him mow.

    Mammotion have gotten a lot of things wrong in the past year - they pushed a firmware update before the app was approved in the play store so that left a few users with a non functional mower for 24hrs (lots of online anger directed at them for that). That said they do continuously improve their app and firmware and lots of features and improvements happened over the course of the last mowing season. Improvements for luba 1 seem to have gone off the radar since the arrival of 2 though - not that it matters as as it stands its a very competent machine.

    In terms of advice, luba is perfect for the typical rural Irish garden but totally unsuited to urban ones. Good clear open sky views are essential for correct operation, especially the Rtk. I think the 1000 is too hamstrung to be worth the money though, the bigger models are far better.

    The Facebook and reddit groups are excellent for finding out about the product, though it's worth remembering that generally it's only people with problems that post. A lot of problems are entirely user error though such as really poor rtk placement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Such a helpful insight, thank you very much LubaDriver! I am struggling to find the 2 in Ireland at the moment as deliveries seem to be for end of this month. I have read and watched nearly every review available at this point, so am now familiar with software uypdate issues of the past and tha tthe camera is only now just being implemented. I also believe the ability to mow patterns gets activated next month as well.

    But I have convinced myself to get the Luba 2 3000. I have also emailed Mammotion to ask why I cant order to Ireland from their EU website.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    Sounds like you might know more about it than me! The 2 is a really good bit of kit and you can see they learned a from the issues the 1 had. The more streamlined shape on the side means it's a lot less likely to get caught on obstacles for example.

    Yeah, they are adding the ability to cut shapes and letters but that's a bit of a gimmick imo. When I say patterns, I mean changing the angle of main cut. If you do the same cut again and again the mower will wear tracks in the grass as it will follow the exact same line again and again. Also change the number of boundary laps as well.

    Mixing it up when it comes to cuts is just a necessary part of having a GPS mower I think and not limited to Luba.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Much appreciate your advice on changing the cut direction, I had not considered it being able to keep so close to original cut that it would make tracks in the lawn. So is there a manual option on the app to do one E->W cut and then one N→S cut per week>?



  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    do you mean one parkside and move it between the three locations or would it be able to be programmed to do that itself?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I mean multiple ones eventually maybe 2 but pick up 1 see how you get on with it. Low cost entry good test.



  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    Oh right, thanks for the suggestion. we currently have someone come in to cut the grass, so would have to keep him on while we trial. I was hoping to make a clean break away. I think most of my lawn issues are from the size and weight of the ride on mower compacting lawn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Mine takes 4 plus hours to cut without the robot. Essentially 2 large lawns separate by drive and then outside garden and across the road



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    Yes, but you select it in degrees, in increments of 10 between - 90 and +90 degrees. My cuts last year were 0, 90, -50 and 40 degrees. The path angle and cut height can be added to the cut schedule.

    The schedule is only 7 days long though. This year I'll probably only run luba twice a week unless it gets drier and we have strong growth that necessitates more frequent cuts. I'll do 0 and 40 degrees with 2 and 4 boundary laps respectively.



  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    😲 so you have just one mower for that, what sort of sq meters? I'm guessing you dont send the robot across the road😅😱



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I have 1 mower for the largest lawn which is about 70 percent of the lawns if I recall it's around 1700 sq meters on its own. ROB R1000 mccullogh

    I have a parkside which I bought last year for the other lawn. Yet to install. Just haven't time yet. So I mow that and outside with a powered push mower.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭padair


    Why not order from the UK site and have it shipped to no, then use thepostalstore to deliver it to you. That how I got my Luba one delivered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭padair


    What are the benefits of the boundary cuts2 vs 4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭randombar


    Hi Folks, question re GPS mowers, do they deal with "under trees" well or ok?

    A lot of the boundary in my place has trees, shrubs overhanging (maybe 4 to 5 feet above the grass), does it drive on and figure it all out or what's the story?



  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭pajoguy


    Did you have to pay customs before they relaased it?

    Really like the look of LUBA 2 and being able to change the maps yourself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Redlim


    I have the Navimow and it struggled a lot with tree canopies initially but they've introduced the vision fence attachment which is a mounted camera to help it see where it's going in poor gps signal areas as well as avoid obstacles. They've also released software updates so it's working perfectly under trees now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭LubaDriver


    Varying the number of boundary laps helps reduce wear on the lawn as the mower won't do its zig zag turn in the same spot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    Got the dreaded no loop signal on my 430X, in since early 2019 afair.

    The base station has no light on it. Tested the fuse in the plug and tested the socket as well and all fine.

    I tried the power block directly in to the back of the base station and still no light.

    I got the multimeter in to the white plastic connector that comes out of the power block and when I power it up I get 26v but that falls to 0.3v in about 20 seconds.

    I reckon the power block is done in. Anyone experienced this before or anything to add to the troubleshooting?

    Cheers!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭S'


    Anyone here have a Kress RTK range of mowers? Interested in your opinion of them.

    Hoping they expand the network coverage as my house is outside their coverage map.

    https://coverx-eu.polarisnavigation.com/?mibextid=xfxF2i



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    The cables into the white block are prone to pulling and breaking, happened to mine, also check the entire length of the cable they can get nicks in them. Unlikely to be power block. Check the voltage the the power block to the extension cable.

    It's usually extension cable issue. Replacement mine last week as connector into the base station finally gave up the ghost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    I excluded the extension cable from the equation by plugging in the power block directly to the base station though.

    From what I can see there is nothing voltage wise coming from the power block.

    I'll double check all the connectors though just in case.

    Cheers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Unhook everything bring the base station inside and the charger plug into a different socket and check if you get blue light. I bought a new charger 2 years back thinking mine was bad. It wasn't it ended up just being jaunty terminals.

    If you get blue light. Tie short bit of cable between the L1 and 2 and see if you get green.

    Often the draw of the boundary cable can mess with the load balancing . Eliminate as much as you can.

    Finally the PCB board in the basestations can go to ****. I've replaced 2 in 6 years a slug each time ate the surface and got fried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    Thanks again. I'll belt into it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    I reckon the power block is done in.

    I’d say so too. I’ve had that go.
    could also be base station but from what you’ve tried sound like PSU.

    Where are you based? Get a loan of another one to see or call to a dealer and ask them to plug it in rather than ripping it open.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Near impossible to rip open. I tried. Cut through it. Wouldn't advise anyone to bother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    I wasn’t clear but I meant the base station.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭padair


    Thanks, only getting it going this week. It's been in the garage since I got it last October. It's going great today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Faws


    I just put our 430x back in service for the season and it is frequently shutting down while mowing. The screen is off, no response from turning off/on or button pushes.

    I thought it was the battery but when I plug it back into the base, it turns back on and says the battery is full. It then asks to do a guidewire recal and set the date/time/pin.

    Any idea how to solve?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    A complete newbie to this. The ride on has given up the ghost and we are thinking of an autonomous mower. Have a mostly flat acre of lawn, a slight gradient here and there, nothing that you'd notice visually, surrounded by trees, which in itself may be an issue before we begin due to little branches/leaves etc falling randomly. Have no desire to laying a boundary wire though, ..and just want an easy life, obviously when we're investing big, we want something that can't actually do the job and not be clogging or upset over a twig every 5 minutes...

    Is there such a robust machine on the market? Any names, advice, the good and the bad please.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Guide wire is the easiest life, no idea where the notion came from that it's not. The most basic system that goes boundary to boundary and bounces of the wire is the simplest solution.

    Bells and whistles and firmware and software updates will be the headache you never asked for at a premium price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭Thud


    twigs are also not an issue, mower will mow over smaller ones. Anything bigger you'd have needed to pick up for a regular mower too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Guide wire is a one off installation, most installers will install it for a small fee.

    Then you just forget about it until you or your dog decides to dig it up accidentally, but even then it's easy to repair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,825 ✭✭✭micks_address


    If anyone is interested I've listed my yard force on adverts.. put lawn is so small it's total overkill for it

    http://www.adverts.ie/26710252



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Brianb8802


    Anybody that's interested in a landroid, amazon.de have a deal on for today. The S400 is €540 delivered (17% off) and the L1000 is €908 delivered (33% off).

    I bought the S400 last week before the deal and it was delivered this morning. Amazon want me to free return the original one and buy another one to get the €100 saving 😐



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    amazon don't delivery those to Ireland

    co-op store has greenworks 750m for sale - reduced from €1000 to 600



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    huh - 400m will deliver to ireland now

    but still not the 700m or 1000m



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    They may have changed policy during the day for this item, this happens often.

    You could use german forwarder service like mailboxde.com I've used them in the past successfully.



  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭carbuncle


    go to bottom of coop page and sign up for the newsletter, within a few minutes you will get a voucher for 10% off your first order - the total amount, not just one item.
    I just bought a greenworks optimow 4, rated for 450sqm for €360 delivered and got it on the second day after ordering.

    I went for the 450sqm as when you read the specs for the battery etc the 750 uses the same battery and cutting disc size - the only difference is amount of pegs and wire but as this was a replacement I needed neither.

    I have a 900sqm area but noticed with my McCulloch (drowned in Pond after nearly 4 seasons) that there is little difference at the lower end - just run it for longer.

    Since I installed last week I think now the greenworks 450 is software limited only - it will go to recharge at 40% battery and take 2 hours to top up yet it is exactly the same battery as the 750sqm. It does state the recharge times in the specifications of the two units are different.

    My grass and moss is still long, it’s only been a few days set at the highest level but my brother has seen a marked improvement in charging speed, running time and state of battery when it goes to recharge somce his started 3 weeks ago. So maybe the extra torque used when working hard affects runtime and recharge time.

    We will see but I will be very disappointed if the difference in the models is due to software limiting, that may change with some complaints though (as there are firmware updates via the app)! €200 difference for some more cable and some pegs is a bit much.

    Its seems to work well though. Very similar physical design to the McCulloch units (no longer made, they were owned by husqovana and of course they make more profit on those).

    I thought about navimo but decided to go cheap, always issues with any type and the greenworks has a 3 year warranty. No display to fail either and higher ip rating - you can wash with a hose.
    you need to use the Bluetooth app for scheduling etc but no real hardship although with Bluetooth always on that may use some power.

    Anyway, happy enough at €360 - we will see how the lawn looks in a few weeks and if the time mowing and charging speed increases as the grass gets shorter and the moss goes.

    For those that don’t know I found with my first one that it only takes a few weeks or so for moss to go and grass to take over - maybe they rip up the moss.

    I have had a few guide wire breaks over the years and had one at the weekend but the cheap (€10 from local hardware shop) am band radio technique does work to trace breaks.

    I will report back on whether it can do the larger area, if not I will put it up for sale and possibly go for the navimow wire free for the craic and interest of the visual system and positioning really.

    I am in two minds though, expensive mowers seem to need expensive parts when really it’s a simple task and laying a boundary is an afternoon’s job. I note earlier in the thread people paying €200 for control boards and over €300 for gearboxes, displays failing etc.

    In 4 seasons with the €400 McCulloch (again rated at much less than I needed) I needed a new board for the base station after a spider fried it (€65 delivered) and €40 for a new battery although the battery did not last too long after the unit spent an hour in the pond.


    I really should put a bit of edging along the pond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭staples7


    edit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭staples7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    Guide wire has been ruled out as the lawn is on a clay stoned surface, not much can be dug before its hit. A very inquisitive dog wouldn't help either. Would much prefer a gps guided machine and be done with it once and for all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You don't have to bury the cable. It's clipped to the lawn surface and them settles into the grass roots in a few months. Common misconception is the cable needs to be buried.

    I replaced some last year as I reshaped my lawn was looking for my original cable which was laid and clipped some years back it was 4 inches below the surface. Literally disappeared



  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭Dozz


    @carbuncle are spare parts readily available for the Green works mowers?

    I like the look of the Worx one for €500 from Germany though



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