Broadband Speed & Ping Test Megathread

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Where abouts are you Gunners?

100 feet underground by the look of things.

gunners111 wrote: »

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4631694729

test done 2/09/15

its never been this bad time to get rid.

Don't think mobile internet speeds are relevant in this thread according to the 1st post.

About two months now.
This is IMO, the minimum for modern usage.

Game pings are not significantly improved and streaming still unstable. Possible but not stable.

Sky fibre installed last week. Quite a distance from the exchange so it's not as high as most people's would be.

FTTC in my nans house shes less than 50 m from the cabinet wish I was :P

ISP is Vodafone.

Latro wrote: »

http://imgur.com/wmtl39t

Can I be switched to higher profile?
Currently I am on 12/1 and the connection is rock solid.
I am about 200 meters from the exchange. Line test returns 19.5 value.

Vodafone staff claims it is maximum my line can take but hard to belive them.
They kept me on 1/0.1 profile for a year then 6Mbit for few months and each time I requested higher profile they declined me saying it couldn't be done.

I'd like to be switched higher and see myself my line becoming unstable.
They are very hard to convince to prove me wrong like last time when i was on 6Mbit profile.

Depends on what bitstream package they have you on. Some are up to 7, some up to 12 and some up to 24Mb. The 24Mb isnt available on all exchnges, is it a small village/town? The line itself can do a lot better though, thats clear.

http://business.digiweb.ie/linechecker/

What does that give ya?

Latro wrote: »

DSL Enabled: Yes - 20 MB
NGB Enabled: No
Fibre Enabled: No
LLU Enabled: No

Limited backhaul exchange. There's an artificial cap in place most likely, Vodafone probably aren't lying.

Wait for an upgrade in a few years time and you'll do 20Mb or a little better on VDSL2.

ED E wrote: »

...on VDSL2.

According to the screenshot from my router page I am already on ADSL2

"modulation type ADSL2+"

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4859214577

You guys on fibre be happy, I pay €175 a month for this so called "business" package because its "uncongested" and should give me around 10mbps.

I work at home and its gonna get me in a lot of trouble soon.

ISP is Reach Broadband and it's the only one I can get.

WTF!!!

This one is closer to my location

holy smokes!

Anybody use DSL reports for tests?

samdeluxjones wrote: »

Just got shiny new eircom/eir e fibre modem and gone from 2.3mbs to 23mbs which is great for rural area.

I have 2 old eircom routers daisy chained off the new e fibre modem which still struggle to push 2mbs, why is this?

I know the old eircom routers were throttled at lower speeds but i didn't think that much.

Is it possible to push out the 23mbs without buying new routers?

South East eh? I'm in rural south east too and only recently went to 40mb/10mb. Fairly nice for rural living :pac: I've the fibre with vodafone, and have used vodafones own router, the eircom f2000 & also a tplink but that was bridged. All gave me the full 40mb.

samdeluxjones wrote: »

miskyboyy, what vodafone charging per month for that if ya don't mind me asking?

eircom bumped up to €50/month for so called fibre (which is still throttled)..

It's €40 per month for just the fibre broadband on it's own or €45 per month for fibre & unlimited landline calls.

https://www.vodafone.ie/home-phone-broadband/?gclid=Cj0KEQiA2b20BRDj4buduIG-y9EBEiQAhgMGFfKfrfGLVYfzx63UFMKPvApFTFmzmTPxj7_7RyslDmIaAshh8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

Hi all,

Wondering if you guys can help me with suggestions here.
With eir on a supposably 3MB package and have ping rates of between 700ms and 900ms. Have the D1000 modem and these pings are direct from the router.

Exchange Code: Unknown
DSL Enabled: Yes - 4 MB
NGB Enabled: Yes - 4 MB
Fibre Enabled: No
LLU Enabled: No

I'm 2.6km away from from a VDSL cabinet.
Late last year, I was told I was due to get fibre between Jan-Mar this year but on ringing them last week, this statement has disappeared into the ether and I now have a "nothing scheduled in the future" response.

The fibre cable passes the bottom of my lane (saw it when they were installing it last Summer) so I'm fed up trying to talk to eir as I see them as utterly incompetent and a waste of time to talk to.

Any suggestions as to what I can do to try to get my ping down to reasonable levels? (almost don't care about download speed at this stage as long as I have decent upload/ping).

Cheers in advance.

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

I'd be looking into a wireless solution until fibre arrives if I were you.

There are providers but they're asking for a min of 80 a month and an 80Gig limit which is pretty ridiculous.

I lived in another part of the country a few years ago and I was on a 1MB line that had ping rates of about 30ms - I'm actually longing for those kind of figures...

Am I mad in thinking that ping rates of nearly a second are abnormal on a line such as that?
Would I be better getting my own modem or would that matter?

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

Those pings are in the satellite broadband realm. :eek:

I'm wondering if your exchange is fed by a wireless backhaul and it is badly congested. What are the pings like at say 3:00am?

If you're 2.6KM from a cab, then you are not going to get eir fibre either, as you're too far away.

Not sure what it's like at 3am (three young kids will make you think of that time of the morning as precious sleep time )

So it's not normal....
I tried ringing them in the past to report a line fault but they don't classify things like that as such....apparently.

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

What? No 3am feeding with a side of speedtest.net to put them back to sleep? :P:D

When their testing, I think if they see end-to-end connectivity, then the line is fine as far as they are concerned. You'd need to be able to prove significant packet loss or interference on the line to get them to properly address it.

You could use something like pingplotter to trace to an irish server (I use www.rte.ie) - ping every 2.5 seconds and leave it run overnight (then you can judge your pings at 3am without waking the little uns). You get a 30 day free trial on the full version.

What exchange are you on (if you know)? We might be able to see if its wireless backhaul and what the plans are for the area.

I think I'm on the ARW one in Athy. What's wireless backhaul?

smokingman wrote: »

Hi all,
With eir on a supposably 3MB package and have ping rates of between 700ms and 900ms. Have the D1000 modem and these pings are direct from the router.

Exchange Code: Unknown
DSL Enabled: Yes - 4 MB
NGB Enabled: Yes - 4 MB
Fibre Enabled: No
LLU Enabled: No

I'm 2.6km away from from a VDSL cabinet.
Late last year, I was told I was due to get fibre between Jan-Mar this year but on ringing them last week, this statement has disappeared into the ether and I now have a "nothing scheduled in the future" response.

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

OK, well the good news would be that the exchange in Ardrew is Fibre connected and most of the cabs in the area are live for VDSL. Only ARW1_007 seems to have no plans for it at this time. I'm not sure if this image will attach, but if you go to http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/ and zoom in you should see the cab's are mostly green for Ardrew. BTW - they have the cab ARW1_007 listed under Athy for some reason, but the Ireland Offline map states it's correct name.

To answer your question, Wireless backhaul is where they don't have an exchange physically connected to their telephone network. They just put a big dish on it and have a microwave link back to a nearby tower which is connected to the network. The wireless link is very restricted in the amount of data it can send and receive, so it can get congested very quickly.

OK - back to your problem with the sh1tty connection. Can you log into your modem and get the downstream attenuation figure from it. Might get some idea of your actual distance from that.

It could be a peer to peer program running in your premises. Or a really f'cked US link.

Most likely though as the exchange is NGB but you're seeing that behavior you were not automatically migrated from the old rack to the new one.

Call eir sales and see what your package is called, if its BB Home or anything 3 or 7 Mb then you need to order a move to an 8Mb package. This will trigger them to send a tech out to jumper your line onto the good kit that connects over fiber vs radio. NB: This is the *package* name not the line speed or prequal value.

MMFITWGDV wrote: »

OK, well the good news would be that the exchange in Ardrew is Fibre connected and most of the cabs in the area are live for VDSL. Only ARW1_007 seems to have no plans for it at this time. I'm not sure if this image will attach, but if you go to http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/ and zoom in you should see the cab's are mostly green for Ardrew. BTW - they have the cab ARW1_007 listed under Athy for some reason, but the Ireland Offline map states it's correct name.

To answer your question, Wireless backhaul is where they don't have an exchange physically connected to their telephone network. They just put a big dish on it and have a microwave link back to a nearby tower which is connected to the network. The wireless link is very restricted in the amount of data it can send and receive, so it can get congested very quickly.

OK - back to your problem with the sh1tty connection. Can you log into your modem and get the downstream attenuation figure from it. Might get some idea of your actual distance from that.

Good news indeed, thanks for that sir! I'll find the attenuation figure tonight and post up then.
Just for my own curiosity, I'm going to gather a bit of data before I ring them up again.
I've set up a script to do a traceroute to eircom.net every minute from the following:
1) Over Wi-Fi from beside my living room sofa where myself and herself do most of our browsing - might be able to see modem/router latency from that.
2) Directly connected to the modem/router.
3) Directly connected to the powerline adaptor I have my PS4/WiiU plugged into

I'll be doing some experiments as well, turning on the washing machine to see if that affects the powerline signal, turning off all Wi-Fi, trying to game online etc and marking all these events in the data with times etc.

I'll probably have a pretty big spreadsheet as a result but this is doing my head in so much, I'm in the mood to do eircom support for them.

ED E wrote: »

It could be a peer to peer program running in your premises. Or a really f'cked US link.

Most likely though as the exchange is NGB but you're seeing that behavior you were not automatically migrated from the old rack to the new one.

Call eir sales and see what your package is called, if its BB Home or anything 3 or 7 Mb then you need to order a move to an 8Mb package. This will trigger them to send a tech out to jumper your line onto the good kit that connects over fiber vs radio. NB: This is the *package* name not the line speed or prequal value.

I've actually never torrented or had any P2P programs running from my house - I use a hosted server in Europe for that sort of thing

Funny you should say that about the 8Mb line - they did say last year that I had moved to an 8Mb package, only for them to row back on it and say it wasn't possible after two weeks of supposedly being on it and me, ringing them continuously about the total lack of a difference.

I'll ring them about it after I gather the above data but thank you for the heads up.

smokingman wrote: »

Have my wi-fi data and kicked off my script directly connected to the modem last night around 8. Going to graph up the wireless data today and do the same for the direct connection data over the weekend.
Attenuation data below as requested and looks like I'm 3.8km from the exchange.

Looking at the http://www.speedguide.net/dsl_speed_calc.php link, that says I can get a max of 4Mb on ADSL and a tiny bit more on ADSL2+.
Doesn't give me a number for VDSL though - do you guys think I can still avail of the 8Mb package?


DSL Mode : ITU G.992.1(G.DMT)
Speed: 3072 kbps/384 kbps
Line Attenuation(Down/Up): 53.0 dB/ 31.5 dB
DSL Noise Margin: 9.0 dB/ 20.0 dB

The current line profile of 3 is good, 4 might be borderline, might work.

Anyone from 512k upwards can chose the 8Mb package and anyone from 9Mb up can chose the 24Mb package*

*assuming there is a newer DSLAM available in the exchange.

ED E wrote: »

The current line profile of 3 is good, 4 might be borderline, might work.

Anyone from 512k upwards can chose the 8Mb package and anyone from 9Mb up can chose the 24Mb package*

*assuming there is a newer DSLAM available in the exchange.

Have my wi-fi traceroute to eircom.net data plotted and can see some interesting stuff.
Can't attach it here but the minimum I get is 213ms but this is overnight.
Jumps to between 2690ms and 6109ms between 5am and 8:30am (no-one using internet at this hour except for my laptop runing the script).
After that, it settles down to ~650ms until 1pm, then jumps up to ~1000ms until family start arriving back at 5pm where it goes up to ~2250ms.
Average over the 25 hours I had monitored was 1300ms.
I had 63 timeouts out of 16100 traces.
Timeouts were recorded on the below:

Router - 1 Timeout
b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net [159.134.155.9] - 10 Timeouts
tenge-4-1-1.pe1.wtd.prp-wtd.eircom.net [86.43.247.105] - 14 Timeouts
lag-3.core2.dbn.core.eircom.net [86.43.253.52] - 7 Timeouts
tenge-1-2-1.pe2.crz.crz-crz.eircom.net [86.43.252.138] - 9 Timeouts
ge1-6.service4.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.125.47] - 13 Timeouts
86.43.151.3 - 9 Timeouts

I'm probably rambling at this stage but writing it all down for reference when I ring them after I do the same above for my "direct-to-router" data run.

Does anyone know if Eircoms techies ask for anything in particular when debugging issues?
@ED_E: If there is DSLAM available in the exchange, do you think I can ask for the 8Mb package to get them to jumper the line onto the good kit?

ED E wrote: »

Use Imgur etc, not the boards file uploader as its broken for now.

What is most important is average latency to each hop. Are you getting 1000ms to the BRAS then 1100Ms to the edge of the network?

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12640308_10154508782907538_8231770427664385642_o.jpg

Average call times over the 25 hours:
Router - - Avg 3.750507688 ms
b-ras1.wtd.waterford.eircom.net [159.134.155.9] - Avg 214.6634755 ms
tenge-4-1-1.pe1.wtd.prp-wtd.eircom.net [86.43.247.105] - Avg 210.4403829 ms
lag-3.core2.dbn.core.eircom.net [86.43.253.52] - Avg 212.5102988 ms
tenge-1-2-1.pe2.crz.crz-crz.eircom.net [86.43.252.138] - Avg 211.1694227 ms
ge1-6.service4.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.125.47] - Avg 213.8456629 ms
86.43.151.3 - - Avg 211.4467653 ms

ED E wrote: »

You poor poor man.

Yeah call and try change package.

Thanks for your advice Ed, much appreciated!