Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Your solution is for Ukraine to stop fighting and give in to a leader who has genocidal goals.... I also wouldn't be classifying the invasion as particularly successful when the Russian war machine failed to complete it in over two years...

Your saying on one hand Russia are no threat to the west and on the other saying they can’t be defeated. Which is it?

By the way your at nothing trying to convince people here that Russia are no threat to the west. They are very successfully trying to de-stabilize the entire western world with their insidious mis information campaigns. They are a massive massive threat. Pouring billions of their wealth into such poisonous bullsh1t while their country goes to sh1t.

 I think it's ridiculous notion cooked up by people who are very bad at the art of propaganda.

I wouldn't be throwing stones mo chara. You know what they say about people in glass houses and all that?

Solovyov and co. are like the Russian version of Tucker Carlson and friends. Just saying any old nonsense as long as it gets them notoriety.

Obviously Russia would be completely unable to reoccupy Alaska or something like that unless the USA agreed to sell it back or something. A more achievable aim is to continue spreading disinformation which leads to the election of Trump who then pulls out of NATO, leaving Europe vulnerable to vastly increased nuclear threats without any confidence of cover if Russia tried the unimaginable.

Ah, in fairness I'd take the Ukrainian figures - both their casualties and Russia's (nearly half a million?!? 35,000 in Bahkmut alone?!?) with a massive serving of salt. That's not a criticism - they're doing exactly what they should be. But even if it was 'just' 100,000 Russian casualties (as well as the 10s of thousands who must have been seriously wounded), that's off the scale in terms of modern wars. The Ukriainian's tbf seem to have priorities protection of life from teh very outset. Any of the dug in campaigns they've had seem to have been very calculated rather than heads in the sand stuff - severely degrade the Russian forces before pulling back.

Does anyone seriously believe the 450,000 is even remotely accurate?

Yes, but the Russians have more, so there would be a subtext of if it came to an all-out exchange, Russia would still have the 'better' of it, whatever 'better' would mean in an apocalyptic nuclear exchange.

But the bigger crux of that would be that Russia would stop trying to undermine NATO if the US left. They'll want to cleave the larger European partners away as well.

As strange as it may sound, but France's aggressive nuclear policy might actually provide an extra deterrent here. France's "force de dissuasion" has two squadrons of Rafale armed with nuclear-tipped ASMP cruise missiles ready to go at any moment, in addition to the more "conventional" submarine-based ballistic missiles. From what I've read, France has a policy of a "nuclear warning shot" prior to unleashing its full ballistic missile inventory. From what I've read, this warning shot does not require the previous use of nuclear weapons by the other side, merely an indication that their use is imminent, and you can bet that Putin knows this. Should Trump win and disentangle the US from NATO, France could find itself with far more leeway to act and take that nuclear warning shot, and even sixty aircraft launched nuclear cruise missiles are going to hurt…badly.

I don't find this scenario in any way likely, by the way. As a cold war kid, the thought experiment is "interesting", though…

Trumps so demented he doesn't know who hes talking to half the time. Throws out any old soundbite that is floating around in his goldfish capacity brain.

Meanwhile, in case people may be starting to think that there's no longer any morality left in Russian people…….think aagain!!!

I believe they are released by the Ukrainian armed forces.

and not only that. Reading and wondering what the heck is that stuff the dude is smoking. Must be very strong and certainly not available here in Ireland. Reminds me this dude.