Croatians attacked in Dublin, one man dead - read OP before posting

I'm sure we could do without training violent criminals how to be more effective. The army is a career to serve your country, not a dumping ground.

This was a foreseen crime that should have been prevented. There has been an upsurge in drug dealing in the Tower Road area which is attracting all sorts from outside the area. The area in and around the Garda Statiion in patticular has become very dodgy as has the Tesco car park up the street. Its now common to see large groups of late teens completely out of their heads.

In the days in and around this incident there were numerous other incidents or "near misses' of people being hastled, chased etc The problem is still persisting - was in the Tesco car park earlier this week and didnt leave my car for about 15mins until the group moved down the street. I could see one member in particular eyeing me up when I parked the car.

Place has a load of Garda cameras and has a lsrge Garda station. When you drive by the Garda Station you can see a full room of people watching Sky Sports on a large screen while all this is going on immediately outside

This was a racist far right murder. End of story. Your attempts to deny, deflect and derail are pathetic.

People should really give a little bit of thought as to whether to go to the anti-refugee protests around the country - every time a person attends one, they are lending credibility to these dangerous far right extremists with the masked faces (those wasters insist they have the support of the public).

if it was you it wouldn't be a racist attack. did you read the details of the case?

Would it have been a [insert whatever type of insult they used in the attack]ist attack?

I think people are missing the point. Its not the case that it is unsafe for people from overseas, but safe for locals. Its unsafe for everyone and anybody could have been the victim.

if people are being attacked for speaking foreign languages then you would think it's unsafe for people speaking foreign languages around the people who killed this man.

i can't understand why people can't accept the fact he was killed for being foreign.

The question you need to ask is if they would have been attacked if speaking english with a local accent. The area is very multicultural - 50% of kids in the local primary school are from homes where english is not the first language. Its very integrated in a positive way.

The policing response is very important. IMHO a policing response which addresses the drug dealing and associated agressive behaviour will prevent further attacks in the area. I dont think a response centred on far right groups will make any difference.

I think the Garda are haming up the "far right'' aspects to deflect from a local policing failure whereby their eyes were more focused on Sky Sports than what was happening outside their Garda station.

But it isn't the Gardai who were eye witnesses to what happened.

Again this is attempts to deny racist hate and deflect from it.

This is the result of years of people aplogising for these little scrotes and their families, sure they lack faciliteeez and it's all everybody else's fault. Funny enough if you let little scrotes have free run on doing whatever they want, they will keep doing exactly that.

I live just off the Ballymun Road and have to listen to them flying past daily on whatever bike they have robbed today, I've seen them openly carrying hammers on the back, off to rob something else or god knows what. But sure let them at it

who has ever defended people who assault people?

If something like this happened in D4 or other parts of south Dublin, there would be a visible Garda response. That there has been no response and the same gangs have continued on with this behaviour even after the fatality is a disgrace.

who are the no facilities crowd? are you saying people defend these kinds of assaults?

And that makes it ok and excuses them from being xenophobic thugs? Stop deflecting/protecting - just suck it up as it is: scrotes with chips on their shoulders.

If I understand your point it's that if these thugs hadn't have picked on this guy it would have been someone else?

It's a fair point but I don't think it's necessarily true. I'm no expert on the subject but from a little reading up on it, it seems people commit these kind of crimes for various reasons. In some cases it might be true that there could have been another victim ie they were just looking to attack somebody, but it other cases it seems they're deliberately sending a message, or trying to defend their 'territory' from foreigners.

https://orca.cardiff.ac.uk/id/eprint/58880/1/understanding-who-commits-hate-crime-and-why-they-do-it-en.pdf

From what we know of this case it seems they contacted a far-right figure to set them on this group, so it doesn't look like a random attack that might otherwise have been a local.

But I do think you make a fair point.

"It wasn't my fault judge, the housing crisis made me do it"

What a load of arse.

It's a pathetic, irrelevant excuse for what is just outright thuggery, and everyone knows it.

There's a certain type of left wing person who stays silent when violent crime is committed by underprivileged people.

But when people are kicked to death by posh lads, they're all over it.