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Electric Picnic 2024 **No Ticket Sales / Requests** - Waiting in line, terrible time, over familiar

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    a headliner can have cancelled for a half a dozen reasons, illness, pregnancy, rehab, court case, Album delays or better offer elsewhere months after their agent tentatively agreed to EP last year.
    shit happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭Ricosruffneck


    Bad reviews for week 2 could have her rattled, could just cancel her entire euro tour. I mean doesn't she have form for that from previous touring. May be wrong of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭dav09


    She wasn't wasnt that bad in fairness Coachella is a difficult one for a lot of acts, ask blur and countless other acts, she is always hit and miss anyway. If they had 6 mediocre headliners I'd take spending the money on 10-12 great tier 2s. Would make a much better festival overall if they can't attract the headliners rather than 6 mediocre ones, like in 2019 they had 4.

    Denzel Curry, Two Door Cinema Clubs, The Prodigy, Skrillex (just announced for 3 days in 3 counties so still very possible), Nia Archives all playing R&L the following week and their fee together would probably be less than a headliner. Throw in Justice or The Blaze too. Availability on some at this stage questionable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭glennponder


    If there is an actual huge act that EP was moved for, Nearly afraid to suggest this, but wouldn't playing irelands biggest ever and most established festival on it's 20th anniversary be right up bono's Street, he'd love that sh1t in a giving it back to the people sort of way....cost wouldn't necessarily be a factor if they wanted to do it, am sure they'd settle for a half mil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    They're trying to get ACDC to do a set. The last chance to get him. Unlikely to happen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    lol u2 been about the money for decades. They were getting €2m a night for vegas, don’t see them heading to stradbally.
    also have u2 even played a festival since Glastonbury over a decade ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,583 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I'd much prefer to see Diplo appear he knows how to get Coachella going. Might even bring a few line dancers keep the Monaghan lads happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭dav09


    Might not have seen but some really bad allegations going around the past few years unfortunately. Incl people on from people in the industry. A lot of people don't work with him anymore it seems Jack U broke up too (thankfully, dreadful music)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    That flimflam article has made it to the top of the RTE news feed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    pure click bait attracting the guppies as intended



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  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭haitens


    Tour de Picnic cancelled anyone know why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    Ah, bitta the old Marketing. Delay the line-up announcement, wait until the click-bait sites have generated enough traction so that it makes National 'news', everyone's talking about it without having to do a thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭glennponder


    They did play glastonbury yeah and that's kind of my point, I think headlining the Premier Irish music festival is something that would appeal to them, the money issue won't come into it, let's be honest they can do what they want and won't be dictated by management telling them they have to play for X amount, again it comes down to them wanting to play. You've mentioned before on here that the top tier acts mentioned, coldplay, ac/dc etc are unattainable price wise and I agree but I think if there is a 'move the festival act' then I think there's a chink of light there for U2 as a possibility



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    That won't catch us out with that nonsense, rubick. We won't be talking about it, will we?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    Not here in the Ploughing Championships Thread!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    How can they fit U2 in with Taylor Swift, AC/DC, Foo Fighters, Oasis, The Beatles, Nirvana, Gerry Cinnamon tribute act and others playing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    Installing a TARDIS generator at the site of the Trailer Park so everything can be seen within the 4 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    No sign of the announcement. I got dodgy information from Melvin again. I don't know why I trust that guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Haha Belvo in the mud on this thread. You hate to see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭antfin


    I wonder would they be delayed because they're trying to confirm the rebooking of Lewis Capaldi who remains on indefinite hiatus after he cancelled last year. Melvo would expect us all to be over the moon if he secured him... so much different from Gerry Cinnamon, Dermot Kennedy, Paolo Nutini et al, ad infinitum!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭C14N


    I'm not going to suggest U2 don't care about the money, but Bono does also just like to sometimes do things for the reputation rather than the profit, like busking in Dublin or that show Bono and The Edge did during covid in (I think) the Ambassador which afaik was free by invitation to regular punters (they did film some of it for that Letterman documentary but still, can't have been that big a payday out of it). They cleaned up big on the Vegas show already and have nothing else announced, it's conceivable that they'd just want to do EP on a big anniversary for the sake of it feeling like an important cultural event without needing to worry about their usual big payday. I'm not saying I'm putting money on it, just that I can imagine a scenario where it happens, where I couldn't imagine such a thing for some hypothetical huge international act.

    Honestly though with the announcement still not even on the horizon, it's starting to feel a bit Fyre Festivaly-y in terms of organisation. As if acts they were counting on are walking away and they're scrambling to fill in the spaces with whoever is still available. Even if they had 3 main acts, that would be enough to announce with like they have done previously, and do a followup when the rest are finalised. This feels like they either don't even have that many locked in, or they feel the few they do have would look very insufficient by themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    U2 (DJ Set)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭hold my beer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Makes sense 😀

    completely unrelated to the lineup debate, last year was my first time in years there (2007 was last time before this). I very much enjoyed it. My (overvalued) two cents worth:

    They need more camping space.

    They need to let people bring in chairs…. I say this knowing that sometimes we are our own worst enemy. Guaranteed SOME scrote is gonna chuck a chair and hurt someone if they let them in but I'm an auld geezer and, while last year was perfect weather for sitting on grass when I needed to, I think I'd struggle if the weather was bad.

    Signposting. I thought this could have been better for people who had not been there before. Thought that was very poor.

    Bringing in alcohol…. Unfortunately again we are our own worst enemy. Would LOVE to be able to bring in our own booze but you KNOW people would just go mental

    However I was extremely surprised how clean the place was. Of course there was overflow at the bins etc but compared to other festivals, it was remarkably clear of empty beer cups.

    The screens on the main stage were excellent.

    The people were, in general, excellent also. (It was fun to see how many people caught when Nutini snuck in "Dayman"… and the look of befuddlement of others. I personally was talking to someone and then went "Wait, did he just say 'Fighter of The Nighman'?… Is he singing DAYMAN???"

    Looking forward to this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Probably due to a number of factors they need to have all the headliners sorted before announcement. From a scheduling to position of the poster rationale they need to have contracts signed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭C14N


    Why bother though? Tickets are already sold out long ago for whatever acts announce. At this stage the only thing they're marketing for is the 2025 show, and looking disorganised isn't great for that. It'll be overshadowed by the acts ultimately but it's probably not a great look for people thinking of buying for next year to think that they have to buy them and then not find out who the acts are until very close to the show itself, which doesn't even give much time to sell them on the secondary market if they decide they don't want to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    It's the Marketing team justifying their existence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21 seamieom


    Fontaines announced for 3arena 6th Dec



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    page is gone from the EP site but that could also just be them re-vamping the site.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Event has been deactivated I found. This and the non announcement will add to the noise behind electric picnic not going ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Only if people are dumb enough to believe this noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭davywalsh7


    tickets on sale next week, wonder if it sold well or sold out would they be added to the picnic



  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭haitens


    A Guy I work with does it every year, he told me this morning its been cancelled.

    Just tried to go on funding page and it's been deactivated.

    Shame the Tour isn't taking place this year might be something to do with the festival taking place 2 weeks earlier?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭corm500


    Guys, there is no way they are going to cancel a sold out festival.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭C14N


    Has this changed recently though? Last year the initial announcement didn't include The Killers, The Script, or Paolo Nutini, which were a mix of eventual headliners and subheadliners. It did include Lewis Capaldi who dropped out later (not sure if Nutini was brought in to replace him) but I don't think it was seen as egg on the face of the organisers that he had to drop out after being announced. Even the second big announcement didn't include The Script who were blurred out on the initial poster.

    In 2018 they announced with just Kendrick Lamar, NERD, and Massive Attack. Two of those (Kendrick and MA) were later placed as headliners and NERD were a subheadliner, and then the The Prodigy were added as a third headliner with Picture This added as second subheadliner. Exact scheduling presumably isn't finalised until much closer to the date itself when they announce that. Even saying who is playing which night is not something they've always put up on the poster (a quick look back shows that 2020, 2019, 2018 and 2016 all left it off on the poster announcement).

    Which leads me to think that with no announcements at all news at this point, they either don't even have the contracts signed for 3 of their top-line acts, or else they have 3 but they're 3 who will be subheadliners bordering on Tier 2 acts and they think it would be an underwhelming initial announcement when people generally expect at least 1 pretty big name on a partial announcement (like a Kendrick Lamar or Billie Eilish).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    they aren’t playing picnic. 3 arena show(s) only Irish show(s) this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wooderson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    They would have had all the headliners locked in last year before Christmas but only announced a few of them. You need to keep some headliners for the spring main announcement. Think even EP mentioned that Paulo nutini being last minute swap for Lewis capaldi.
    The reason the Script were blurred and only revealed close to the picnic was the illness and death of their guitarist. Think they mentioned that there were playing it by ear to see if they would be able to play hence the blurring. I’m sure Melvin etc had a back up in case which might have been Paulo for that night instead.

    exact stage scheduling is part of the contract negotiation and agreement done for big acts before Christmas. The exact show length and what order is legally binding i.E an act headlining electric arena will have in the contract that they are headlining that stage and billing on poster will be agreed with agent.
    It could very well be that they have 5 out of 6 acts, have offers out to multiple artists for last slot and which one takes it might need to be moved to headliner and then they have to renegotiate with one of the 5 to move them down a slot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭C14N


    I'm just saying it's not a great stategy even from that perspective. When you want to sell tickets to next year's festival, having national news reporting that many members of the audience are getting worried about it even happening isn't a great look image to put out. Even if the headline is the organisers re-assuring people that it is happening, it's still putting the idea in the heads of people who otherwise wouldn't have noticed that maybe it is going to be cancelled (in the same way Joe Soap isn't going to want headlines saying "Joe Soap denies beating his wife"). I don't see it as a deliberate stategic move on the marketing team's part so much as trying to do damage control for grumbling ticketholders.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭LowOdour


    Could not give a hoot about headlier acts at this stage. Hopefully the announcement gives us a good 20 to 30 acts to filter through....that is where my focus is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭dav09


    I am getting worried the way things are heading. So Tour De Picnic looks cancelled, difficulty getting bookings and obviously there is a problem with this which is concerning this time of year, major Trailer Park changes incoming, no announcement. Tour De Picnic was a huge part of their marketing, as was their lineup, announcements, press events, etc. Sounds like a serious mess up this year with a bunch of things I hope doesn't set precedent for the festival, obviously minor things in the grand scheme but collectively not a great look. It sounds of a team who are complacent with the fact they think it will just sell out every year by doing the minimum, which is never the case for festivals, the rumors are not good for them and I thought they'd want to quash them ASAP the easiest way to put out some sort of a lineup, hopefully it's not the case, obviously still going ahead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    All the festival needs is unsavoury craic to start at the festival (predictable enough given booking policy) to go along with the japes theyre pulling with this bizarre self-own comms approach and theyre looking at Reading sales levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Bacardi area is gone too. So main arena will do be getting a shake up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭rubick


    Dingle Gin Palace area incoming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    I think people on here are overestimating the negative feedback on the delays and tour de Picnic (seemingly gone). End of day once they announce line up the general ticket holding public will probably be happy and EP 2025 will sell out insta fly when it goes on sale in October.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Poster above yours was referring to tour de picnic I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭Stillill42




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭dav09


    Wow, although I don't think it's a bad thing, has been fairly dreadful the past few years. Probably sponsorship changed to Pernod Ricard/Irish distillers or LVMH. Wouldn't be too surprised if they did a Hip Hop area with mostly Irish acts instead with LVMH/Hennessy like Body & Soul given that's gone and their hip hop connections or some other company.



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