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Sky Stream has arrived in Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Dingaan


    Is anyone experiencing audio sync issues? I have a Sonos Beam connected via arc. It's very noticeable. Fire cube works perfectly for comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,819 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Cant say I've noticed any issues with audio. I only use the television speakers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Considering sky stream - offer is 50 per month for combined [TV+500Mb Internet] (+10 for Cinema maybe) - have a few questions - be grateful if anyone who has system can answer….

    1. What is the hardware for SKY broadband like (not the tv puck) - Sales guy said would be using Virgin Media Fiber network. Want to know if I would need rewire the house as its currently VirginMedia via coax from road, through the walls to the VM box in center of house and from there to personal network switches. A link to a photo of the internet box they supply would be great to see if it has ethernet ports as we prefer ethernet for our devices when possible over wifi.
    2. Can we 'record' and timeshift BBC now? Some posts here seem say different things. Not my thing - but a requirement from family here is to watch bbc strictly, jungle, celeberity ice etc. type shows etc. later that night after they air. Would that be possible with stream?
    3. If we "Record" I understand its just a link to the on demand - can we fast forward etc easily - past adverts even?
    4. After 12 months and we loose the paid for "Fast Forward adverts" feature - does this we have watch adds in recordings also then? We cannot manually skip forward past the adverts??

    Thanks!

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,600 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    1. They fit two wall mounted junction boxes for the fibre connection. For us, they ran a cable from the junction box outside, drilled a hole in the door frame, and mounted the boxes in the hall. I'll check if it has Ethernet port, but location of the router may be the bigger issue.

    2 - No recording. Ability to Watch from Start or stream on demand is limited for much of BBC content.

    3) Yes, you can skip ads. With RTE and C4, you can start fast forwarding and it stops automatically. With Sky and VM, you have to watch to see when the ads finish and press play.

    4 - they will probably charge extra for the ability to skip ads after 12 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    What is the hardware for SKY broadband like (not the tv puck) - Sales guy said would be using Virgin Media Fiber network. Want to know if I would need rewire the house as its currently VirginMedia via coax from road, through the walls to the VM box in center of house and from there to personal network switches. A link to a photo of the internet box they supply would be great to see if it has ethernet ports as we prefer ethernet for our devices when possible over wifi.

    Sky broadband is usually SIRO. If your sales guy is right then no change is required. If SIRO is needed the install guy will take care of it. The modem/router is pretty good

    Can we 'record' and timeshift BBC now? Some posts here seem say different things. Not my thing - but a requirement from family here is to watch bbc strictly, jungle, celeberity ice etc. type shows etc. later that night after they air. Would that be possible with stream?

    If we "Record" I understand its just a link to the on demand - can we fast forward etc easily - past adverts even?

    No, there is no recording facility on Sky Stream, see posts above for what recording has been replaced with

    After 12 months and we loose the paid for "Fast Forward adverts" feature - does this we have watch adds in recordings also then? We cannot manually skip forward past the adverts??

    Again, there is no recording facility. The "fast forward adverts" is for the on-demand/catchup content and costs €6 a month to skip the ads after 12 months



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    We have Sky Q on the OH's account but decided to give stream a go in tandem because it looks like it might be the future. 2 weeks and we had enough. Glad we didn't get rid of Q. Maybe it suits some people but it was not for us

    The interface was sluggish. Linking things to watch later were hit and miss. in fact the BBC content seemed to be severely lacking when searching the catch up stuff, beyond paradise for example wasn't there at all. RTE and TV3 stuff couldn't skip adds despite supposedly being a feature. No ITV for the Munster match last weekend or regional BBC's available

    If this is the future of pay-tv I might not be partaking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭babelfish1990


    Eir is the only streaming provider that has unrestricted recording working properly for BBC and UK channels. Sky, Vodafone, and VM all have restrictions. BBC don't have ad's (except their own trailers), but you can fast-forward normally through the recordings on Eir. RTE don't allow any of the streaming providers to do cloud recording, forcing the use of RTE player or catch-up for playback. All the TV providers are trying to force customers away from their legacy hard-drive boxes to streaming, so you will likely have to move at some stage - but if you want proper recording, you might want to stick with your legacy box on coax cable or move to Eir. Sky are using the retirement of satellite and VM are using the retirement of copper coax cable to encourage customers to move to streaming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,944 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    RTE and Virgin crave the ad revenue on their players unfortantely.

    RTE Player - "Playing ad 1 of 4". Skip forward 20 minutes. "Playing ad 1 of 6". Give me a break. Ahhhh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I don't need cloud recording, regular recording works fine. Perhaps a stream recorder box will be next in line, wasn't there sky before sky+ for example? Think stream+ might be the next step



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭babelfish1990


    In that case, you might be better staying with the legacy hard-drive box (Sky-Q) for now. At some stage, Sky will probably force you off it, as they prepare to shut down the satellites and move everything to streaming over Broadband. Although the satellites are not scheduled to be switched off for 5 years, Sky seem to be getting quite aggressive in pushing customers to Stream. They have also made their installation team redundant, anticipating no future need to install new dishes. They probably get much better revenue from the adverts on streaming, and can charge a premium to remove ads. This may cause them to accelerate the migration to streaming ahead of the satellite shut-down. The Sky Streaming boxes use cloud recording - they don't have disk drives in them. As you observed, they have horrendous recording issues, and they are also completely under-powered for the job. Eir uses the Apple TV 4K which is a much better box, but even Eir is restricted by RTE's policy of not allowing cloud recording.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    They haven’t pushed any existing customers to Stream and have done nothing to do so.

    Stream has been primarily aimed at new customers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭ozmo


    If we are pushed to this it might be time to bring back whatever the modern digital equivalent of vhs tape recorders are… They were perfectly legal to use. I used to have an Aldi yoke that would change the UPC box channel at the correct time (using an infra red led) and record tv - before we got horizon etc.

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    They are completely legal, as long as the recorded material is for personal use only you will not be in trouble for using one. However I can't seem to find one no matter how hard I look. Let me know if you find one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    You can record any channel you want on a fta box



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Dare I say, we could resurrect our old VHS or DVD recorders?

    Mind you, you might have to purchase an HDMI to scart/composite adapter.

    Coming back to Sky Stream itself. Can you get a sky stream box alongside SKY Q or are you only allowed to run the one system in your premises?

    Also, does the SKY stream box have any geo-tag/geo-location security measures akin to the phoneline connection on boxes of yesteryear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,600 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I suspect they'll go the other direction, of getting access to on demand services sorted. Who needs recording?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    We had stream and q in the one household, we tried it under one account and had the q under another

    Not sure about the security measures, are you suggesting there's a potential to bring your q to your holiday home?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Thanks for the feedback. Do you mean you had two separate names/addresses on paper for SKY Q and stream respectively?
    I have no doubt that the boxes will work in the 1 premises, from a practical standpoint.
    I'm just thinking of the paperwork issue and if you need to/can work around it.

    In terms of security measures, Yes, I would be interested in possibly bringing a sky stream box to a holiday home and still use it as normal or is there some kind of geo-tag/lock that restricts it to your billing address?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Thanks for the feedback. Do you mean you had two separate names/addresses on paper for SKY Q and stream respectively?
    I have no doubt that the boxes will work in the 1 premises, from a practical standpoint.
    I'm just thinking of the paperwork issue and if you need to/can work around it.

    No the 2 names were in the same address, we had 2 separate account numbers

    In terms of security measures, Yes, I would be interested in possibly bringing a sky stream box to a holiday home and still use it as normal or is there some kind of geo-tag/lock that restricts it to your billing address?

    In theory it should work as stream works using any broadband providers connection (you don't need to be with sky broadband to use sky stream, you can be with Vodafone, Eir, Pure or maybe even one of the mobile broadband crowds) and I didn't notice anything specific about geo-location in the menu or the settings. However I would be very slow to give a definite answer as the only real way of knowing is to try it and see does it work

    A little off topic, so apologies in advance, but a cheaper option might be to buy an old games console second hand and use Sky Go on that. Does Sky Go work with Apple TV also?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    Yes Sky go works excellent on Apple TV boxes

    Post edited by IrishHomer on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,819 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I've plugged mine in at another address and it worked without problems. In theory it should work anywhere within the EU as it is a paid streaming subscription.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭ozmo


    A number of questions asked here and a few others answered in this review- like when Fast Forward will work, when recording wont (we have extra bbc restrictions over their examples). Pretty much was answered above - but good to have it in one page…

    https://www.gbnews.com/tech/sky-stream-tv-price-uk-release-things-sky-didnt-tell-you

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Considering this, is it allowable for Virgin Media/Vodafone to restrict their streaming subscription services to their own router? Like should you be able to watch them anywhere in the EU?



  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Butson


    Nope. Brought mine to Centre Parcs, blocked and wouldn't work.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Just a note about Center Parcs you will (for whatever reason) be allocated a UK IP address when logged on to their guest WiFi and that will affect what you can access. Yes a little bit of Brexit in Longford!!!!

    It’s a good question, but I suspect the Portability Regulation is satisfied if you can access the out of home service (Virgin TV Anywhere or the Vodafone equivalent) on the same basis as you can if you were at an ROI address other than your own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    That's an interesting fact about centreparks. I wonder would iPlayer work there as a result



  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Butson


    Ah ok thank you re Centre Parks.

    Luckily bough the fire stick which worked :)



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It does, as it happens. It’s an odd set up.
    But we’re gone way off topic now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭IrishHomer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,600 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Personalising is a good idea. I wish there was a way to give a thumbs down to the shows or people that I can't abide, so they would stop coming up in the recommendations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Would you recommend eir over sky stream service? I assume you need fibre broadband to stream any of the tv providers or can you stream sky with the ordinary broadband?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,819 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Sky recommend a 25 meg speed or 30 if you want to watch UHD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    The UHD sports on sky stream is absolutely outrageously good



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Gardening


    Apparently Irish channels will be available on the freely tv streaming service in northern Ireland when activated so here's hoping it'll be the same in the republic for the free to air UK channels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    There was meant to be a deal when saorview launched that we would get BBC on it and NI would get RTE on Freeview but that never materialised in the end



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭decor58


    RTE, TG4 pay the transmission costs of their channels in NI, BBC is available to transmit on Saorview if someone, not BBC, is prepared to pay transmission costs. BBC is available in pretty much most of Ireland via satellite without additional cost to them.

    Post edited by decor58 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    RTE and TG4 might be available on that new streaming service in NI, not mainland UK of course, but I guarantee you, the Virgin Media channels won't be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    Can I ask someone who has Sky Stream, when you opt to record a programme, say on RTE 1, it puts the programme on a playlist and when you go to watch that programme, I understand that Stream plays that programme for you from the RTE Player ? But does Stream immediately start playing the programme for you, or does it direct you to the RTE Player, wait for it to load, find the programme, have to watch adverts first etc ? Like when you use the Player yourself ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    You have to watch the ads, but you can fast forward through them. But the biggest problem with Sky Stream is that it more or less doesn’t work with the BBC player. All others seem to work ok, however playlist will only remain however long the program or film stays on the player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Austin1


    What are your opinions on the Sky Ultra UHD & Dolby Atmos add-on for €6 per month? Not sure if its value for money for me as I have surround sound but normally use it with built in apps on my LG TV, ie. not going through the Sky puck.

    Is there much UHD content on terrestrial TV that would make this add-on a good purchase? I'm not a sports fan btw so if this only benefits Sky Sports channels, its not worth my while.



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There’s no UHD content on terrestrial tv in Ireland.

    More generally, when I had Sky Q UHD a few years back there wasn’t much other than sports, but there might be more of the Sky Atlantic-type stuff in UHD these days. Or the movies if you are taking that. Personally I dropped it at the first instance (and I’m a sports fan) but to be honest the use you will get out of it will depend on whether you have a big enough and good enough TV for it to make a difference over HD. And what you watch.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,168 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The UHD HDR sports coverage can be a bit off putting to be honest due to the difference in lighting. The darker parts of the pitch are darker and the brighter parts brighter. Sometimes I find it takes a bit more effort to watch.

    I have Sky Sports UHD but I mostly watch the HD channel.



  • Registered Users Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Butson


    Has anybody who was unhappy with Stream, contacted Sky to go back to Q?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    I was thinking of upgrading to a new 65 inch tv and getting that ultra hd add on. Would I need a 120htz tv or would 60htz be enough?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    60HZ will work fine and you’ll have great picture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,867 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    As of today 29/05/2024, sky are still offering fresh Sky Q installs according to their website so I see no reason not to but I haven't heard of anybody doing it personally

    One option if they do get hairy is to cancel stream and sign up fresh to Q



  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭bawnBeag


    Quick question - does anyone know how much the 1gb bb is with the sky stream offer?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭john boye


    Wasn't sure where to post this so apologies if this is the wrong place. Was thinking of going back to sky q as a new customer after a few years with virgin and I see they still charge €10 pm for HD(free for the first two months). Anyone know how likely they are to give it free for the year to a new customer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran




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