Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Target logistics logistics logistics. And target the planes dropping bombs. That might need to wait until the f16s arrive. If Russia lose the ability to fly sorties they will been in a spot of bother as their current tactics rely a lot on those glide bombs. Took way too long but better late than never.

Cheapest way possible of letting russia self-immolate and kill off those russians fed to the meat grinder that you don't think are human.

The russian loss of life is a tragedy and they should stop the special operation immediately.

All the loss of life in this war is a tragedy. And everyone is human, where did I say otherwise? I don't know where you're coming from on that point tbh…

But there's nothing cheap about this thing, the human cost or the financial.

I can't see more money ending this thing. The Russians are just too strong, and they had far too much time to fortify these defensive lines. Ukraine would need a huge superiority in numbers, to have any chance of overwhelming those lines now. These fortifications are excellent force multipliers, and the attacker must assume more of the risk to men and equipment.

You said that already a few times. Fake news doesnt get any more convincing when you put it on repeat.

And the US Congress just cut the legs out of the other line of Russian propaganda you have been spinning.

About time US. About fecking time.

russia are feeding russian lives into the system and dying in astronomical numbers. The special operation has absolutely decimated their army, navy and airforce (despite Ukraine not having a navy and a very small airforce) leaving them reliant on other pariah states for support.

Any inch they gained was paid for in numerous russian lives and you are cheering them on for more and more russian deaths.

How do you think russia should start minimising the loss of russian lives?

The Russians are just too strong, and they had far too much time to fortify these defensive lines.

russia are defending now? What do they plan to use the territory they have mined and destroyed for? Will they settle people under artillary fire and F-16 glide bombs? Would you go and live in the Donbass?

Aw, Moscow Marge MAD

Not sure if blatant trolling, Russian shill or pure ignorance, but.

The Russian military isn't very impressive being rhetoric?

Russia, since the foundation of Ukraine as an independent state, has spent almost 20x more than Ukraine per year on military.

Only since 2014 did Ukraine start spending more but it was still a drop in the ocean compared to Russia.

Few billion a year compared to 50-60bn for Russia, though let's not talk about the fact that half of the Russian figure was probably lost to corruption in Putin's mafia state.

Russia invading Ukraine in 2022 should've been a rollover. Everyone expected it to be. Experts predicted Ukraine might last a few weeks.

It should have been akin to the Gulf Wars.

Instead Russia pulled the Winter War 2.0. **** logistics. **** leadership. **** command control. **** tactics.

Imagine the USA invaded Mexico and two years later was bogged down a few hundred km into the country.

The Russian military is ****. It's gutted by rot and corruption, same as the country itself under the banner of Putin.

It's not a hard sell to anyone. The Russia armed forces are a massive joke. A massive joke that can still cause damage and destruction unfortunately, as any army can, but a joke nonetheless relative to what everyone thought they were capable of.

That's how it goes in Putin's Russia. It's not a country it's a kingdom run like a crime family. The biggest laugh is that Putin himself presided over this dysfunctional mess and probably had no idea how bad the rot really was under his watch.

He probably lies in bed at night staring at the ceiling wishing he had a time machine to go back to 2022.

The fact two years after the invasion that Ukraine has held off Russia with a) it's own material and b) a drip-fed supply of US/EU's surplus/outdated weaponry says it all.

Putin rolled the dice on Ukraine folding in a few days. Same way Hitler rolled the dice on the Soviet Union falling in a few months.

The outcome may not have been clear at the time, but with hindsight we knew the game was over once that didn't happen, even if it took literal years for said outcome to come home to roost.

Ahhh the panic tonight smells like in the morning.

Good for them. They're the real heroes

It will take a few more days. It now has to go to the senate and be passed there which I believe is set to happen on Tuesday and then it will be signed into law by Biden. So it won't happen today but just another few days before its officially passed.

Both sides are feeding lives into their respective war machines. Ukraine seem to be far more reliant on outside support than the Russians. (despite what we've been told about the standard of the Russian military - their weapons/equipment etc)

Just out of interest, what do you estimate to be the total financial contribution from the west to Ukraine after this latest US aid package? I have seen various different figures thrown around.

Where did I cheer on more Russian deaths? I have been suggesting that someone should broker peace, perhaps Trump if he gets elected, as Biden doesn't seem very interested in this avenue. By comparison, other posters here seem far more keen on seeing a continuation of the war.

Why would the Russians not be defending? They have annexed these territories, brought them into the Russian federation, and are now defending them from attack like they might any other part of their nation. (as they see it of course)

"How should Russia start minimising the loss of Russian lives?"

Well, Putin did seem open to negotiations with Ukraine/the west in that Tucker Carlson interview. So, perhaps someone in Ukraine/the west should consider this path? There is the possibility, that the Russian view on the war might harden significantly in the future - as there are many hardliners within Russia calling for this. If things start to go downhill for Ukraine on the battlefield over the coming months, such an olive branch might disappear.

So, what form would that peace negotiation take?

My .02:

Ukraine and Russia cease hostilities.

Russia withdraws from all territories in Ukraine occupied since 2014. Russia pays to repair and replace all infrastructure destroyed by them since 2014. Russia repatriates all children and citizens kidnapped by them to Russia, since 2014.

Vladimir Putin, Sergey Lavrov, Simonoyan and others turned over to the ICC for prosecution for war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity.

You're absolutely misrepresenting what Putin said in the Carlson interview. His idea of peace amounts to telling the EU and US to stop supporting Ukraine and allowing Russia to complete the invasion. Also, to point out, you've failed to address the fact that Russia is actively committing genocide in Ukraine.

"When asked by Carlson about the possibility of peace in Ukraine, Putin said: “If you really want to stop fighting, you need to stop supplying weapons,” referring to Western aid to Kyiv. “It will be over within a few weeks. That's it,” he added."

https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-tucker-carlson-ukraine-war-elon-musk/#:~:text=When%20asked%20by%20Carlson%20about,That's%20it%2C%E2%80%9D%20he%20added.