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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    A dire first half but hopefully we'll turn it around. If we lose this and we fail to get out of Munster, then we might need to drop some of the old guard.

    Especially when we have a lot of all Ireland winners from u20 level to bring through. Hopefully we'll lift it in the second half though.

    This was always going to be a dangerous game if any ounce of complaceny settled in.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    We've finally woken up it's all square now.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,640 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    About seventeen minutes left and Waterford are three points ahead.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,242 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    This is some shambles of a performance.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It's down to two now. We need a big last sixteen or so minutes from Cork here.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    We can forget about the All Ireland and getting out of Munster. Time for Horgan, Lehane Harnedy and Cahalane to go now. Where are you now White feather?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,242 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It's a shocking state of affairs if we don't have any players coming through to replace the likes of Harnedy and Lehane.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Waterford four up in injury time here.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,242 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Atrocious stuff from Cork.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Vinnie222




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    At least we are out of championship next week after Clare beat us.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭gifted


    Not good enough....out of all the hurlers available in Cork this is what is put out to represent us?



  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭magic17


    Three Under 20 titles in four years and we're still playing Cahalane, Harnedy, Horgan & Lehane. Is it a boys club or what lads? It seems to be harder to get off the team than on it. Mother of god. We've known for a decade that these guys can't get the job done. They've had their time and been decent servants. It's time to move on. If it takes a year or two for the new lads to get up to speed then so be it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Ok i just need to relax here because i'm pretty angry about this defeat! First of all well done to Waterford the better more hungry and more motivated team on the day.

    We have to make our two home games count against Clare and Limerick now, and then get something away to Tipperary in Thurles.

    But that was a very sloppy display from Cork that lacked drive and hunger. We've been saying this crap for too long now at this stage.

    The thing is that Cork performance today was miles away from the standard of the Clare and Limerick game. We'll be eaten alive by both Clare and Limerick if we show up with a performance like that again.

    It looks like we're going to hit the twenty years without a senior all Ireland milestone. There needs to be some hard calls made on the Hoggie, Harnedy, Lehane and Cahalane generation at some stage.

    Now Hoggie and Seamus in particular have given some serious service to Cork, but we have a raft of all Ireland winners from underage to bring through.

    Give them a chance instead of persisting with players who either don't look like being around for our next all Ireland win or who have had more than enough chances at this stage.

    We've spent the last twelve years waiting for one fella in particular to step up to the plate! Another Munster group stage exit won't look good for Pat Ryan either when you have Ben O'Connor waiting in the wings.

    A bad a day as there ever was for Cork hurling and it raise a whole pile of questions but again well done to Waterford. They might cause a few more surprises before the year is out.

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    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Well done to Waterford today!

    Really poor today. I knew Waterford would be good early on but our misses in the first half were truly awful. 8 wides. Get even half of those and we would be going in drawing the game. Waterford were like, "hey, we can actually win this" and then it became a bigger battle. Lehane should have been taken off after 15 or 20 mins. I'm not joking. He is either on or off and he was clearly off from the start.

    Our subs made a huge difference near the end. We nearly could have got a draw or snuck a win even when we played so badly but this won't be happening against the rest in Munster. We just gave them the initiative and they began to grow in confidence.

    Collins in goal I would replace the next day also. His distribution from puck outs was very poor. Harnedy always seems to want ages on the ball, he needs way more urgency.

    We really need to put more faith in the newer players going forward. Keep Lehane, kingston and maybe even Harnedy to sub appearances. I know Kingston wasnt playing today but he and Lehane seem to just be too inconsistent to start. Cahalane was kinda unlucky to get a red but he does stupid things a lot and we keep seeming to want to rely on him. We should be looking to the young players from now on.

    The likes of Connolly, Barrett and O'Connell are the way forward. Ryan took too log to bring on the subs today.

    Ref gave out way too many yellows to both teams. 4 to Waterford, 5 to Cork with a red and black card. It seemed he was destined to send someone off the way he handed them out.

    Now the next day against Clare becomes a complete must win at all costs. If I see another slow start from this team, I will go mad!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    We've gone seriously soft as a hurling county. If it's another short year then Ryan needs to wield the axe. All four of Hoggie, Harnedy, Lehane and Cahalane should not be starting on a Cork team all at once at this stage

    If we have to wait another few years for senior success then so be it, but the lads from underage are the future. Give them a chance and be patient with them. I was delighted that Pat took over from Kieran Kingston as manager.

    But at least Kingston won a Munster title and took us to an all Ireland final. I'm not advocating that we bring Kingston back now. I just think that a lot of people are on notice after today.

    Nearly twenty years without a senior all Ireland, twenty six years without a league title and it's been more than half a decade since we last won Munster.

    We can't just brush all this under the carpet. That is serious levels of underperformance for what is the largest county in Ireland.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Winning titles at underage is one thing. Making underage talent into senior inter county players is another thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭BarryNumber1


    Yes it's very hard to do, Clare were in a similar boat with U21 successes and they barely got over the line in 2013. That was it then. However, I think we've a good few that should be getting their game. What happened to Cunningham? He not in the squad? Plus will Dalton be back? who I happen to like as he gets stuck in and can take a free as well.

    All is not lost yet, but some hard decisions need to be made.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Cunningham is injured. Supposed to be back soon though



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  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭BarryNumber1


    Cheers, didn't know. All that said, the outing against Limerick could be brutal. They looked solid out, those lads are pretty big and can get as physical as you like, and can hurl as well. Took everything Clare threw at them today, didn't panic at all, and came out on top. Clare lads must be sick tonight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    SUN, 21 APR, 2024 - 14:50

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  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭FantasyFool


    Not sure Cunningham is the answer, at least in the half forward line- watched him struggle to win high ball against Westmeath in the league last year.

    Dalton was a massive loss today- we have no hurler with his 'skill' set.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭PeggyShippen


    Cunningham would offer alot more than Lehane did today. Hayes should have started too. It was left to Connolly to bring the fight and Barratt who had his best game for Cork but still missed a few easy ones. Ryan's hand is forced now..time to give youth its fling. Waterford were good ..I won't take that away from them but Cork should ve playing Eoin Downey... and a rake more

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Terrible result...Cork hurling in an awful place I'm afraid. Lack of leadership and heart...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Limerick Clare Kilkenny and Tipp managed to do it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I just knew Cork would find it difficult to win today and was right. Waterford were not respected by a lot of the Cork folk . Cork will come out fighting next week but will come up short and then championship is over and hopefully we see changes then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    two losses won’t mean it’s over. It’s possible to get two wins and get through. Maybe two draws and a win…



  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭BarryNumber1




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    A big performance is in us against Clare and Limerick at home, but on the face of it though beating both the best team in the country for the last few years and the current league champions back to back will be a big ask.

    Clare pushed Limerick all the way in the last two Munster finals as well. Tipp in Thurles will be another tough one, although i'd have Tipp behind both Clare and Limerick in the rankings. They probably think the same about us to be fair!

    Weirdly enough if the game today was in Thurles or the Pairc i think we possibly might have won. Even though we beat Waterford there two years ago in the championship, but even going as far back as the 60's Walsh Park has always been a bogey ground for us!

    I'd just like to see us being a bit bolder and more adventurous with our team selections in our remaining games, and just give it a right good go and see where it takes us.

    As someone else said two wins and a draw might be enough for us to get out of the group.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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