Cork GAA Discussion Thread

He had a hamstring injury and only just back

It sure is and it's only the older folk among us understand that!! A shadow of the great teams from the 90s. In my opinion the management should have been changed last year as progress was non existent. Here we go again today, like a carbon copy of last year. Somethings very amiss in Cork hurling right now, and it's been missing for a long long time!!

We need to be patient with the newer players no matter who the manager is, but if it's another short summer then give the job to Ben O'Connor if he wants it.

The reality is that two much maligned managers (i include myself in that!) in John Meyler and Kieran Kingston have taken us closer to an all Ireland than Pat Ryan.

Workrate is a non negotiable at Limerick and Kilkenny. If a player is not willing to put the work in then management won't tolerate that. John Kiely and Derek Lyng won't be long getting rid of you.

It seems that we're still struggling with this basic concept in Cork. Waterford turned that game yesterday into a physical battle and we just didn't want to know about it.

Someone will knock Limerick off their perch eventually it's just that i'm not sure it's going to be us. I don't think we've fully grasped or come to terms with how modern-day hurling works in Cork yet.

Great Analysis . Speaking as a disconsolate clare supporter reared watching generations of wonderful Cork hurling teams. It is obvious for the last decade that Cork hurling people, management, players and supporters, don't accept that the era of creative hurling with players displaying individual brilliance is not enough anymore. Kilkenny changed the template and Limerick have refined it further. Now it's a system requiring skill, athleticism, strength and conditioning, in match communication and total buy in from everybody involved. This is a professional attitude in an amateur game and it's a winning formula. And intercounty hurling isn't going back to the 'good old days' any time soon. In cusack Park yesterday. Limerick on the rack, 8 points down and being outhurled. We celebrating on the terraces.. a bit prematurely I now realise. Suddenly, Limerick changed their entire hurling system. Players seemed to understand what they needed to do intuitively. No egos evident, a job of work to be done. Impressive. When Cork finally accepts the new realities they will return to the top table. Hope they don't learn too much before Sunday!!!!!!!

I think we got too carried away with underage success too plus young lads are different now.

Look at lads who switched to rugby. Big loss for GAA but it's hard replace. I don't blame them though. GAA in cork has long road back. A toxic culture was there for long time.

Some people will scoff at the suggestion that it was backward and how things were done for years but it's the truth and we are paying price for it now.

Just one example of 100 I could talk about,

This going back years but I know lads who got phone calls night before games to tell them they were dropped.

I know of lad who scored 1-18 in Divisional final and 1-16 in county final (they lost but he single hardly got them there in Grade A) and could not get on Cork minor cause his parents did not want him change schools when management did so he suffered.

People here may think thats BS but it depended in club you played for too. Certain clubs got easier rides then others so if this sounds like unusual case than lucky you. Wasn't case for all.

Cork GAA is in debt for another generation and it's hard to see success coming before end of decade now.

Some people don't like truth here but until the wrongs are put right on all sides then Cork GAA will just go back and back.

Waterford fan here, honestly I wouldn't say Harnedy or Hoggy were anywhere near your worst performers yesterday. Lehane certainly it's hard to see why he is still starting. From what I've seen of ye previously I would say Dalton is a massive loss, when is he due back? Full back is still your biggest weakness imo.

The we need Davy Fitz as manager shouts are going up on the PROC now.🤣 Now the dark part of my mind (we should have done it in football ages ago) says at times that we should go for an outside manager but it wouldn't be Davy Fitz!

Fair enough he won an all Ireland as a manager against the worst Cork team that ever showed up in an all Ireland final in living memory, but Paul Kinnerk was the main man behind that all Ireland win for Clare.

Once he left the Clare setup Davy was shown up for being the bluffer that he was imo.

We need to beat Clare. We will see now if they got it or not next time out and if not Ryan might as well just pack it in. Clare are beating us unless we produce a 2010 like performance against Tipperary.

U20 football team to play Clare at 7pm on Wednesday in Pairc Ui Chaoimh

1. Aaron Mannix (Doheny’s)
2. Dan Twomey (Ballinascarthy)
3. Shane O’Connell (Kilshannig)
4. Colin Molloy (Nemo Rangers)
5. Gearoid Daly (Mallow)
6. David Buckley (Douglas)
7. Sam Copps (Mallow)
8. Rory O’Shaughnessy (St Michaels)
9. Michael McSweeney (Knocknagree)
10. Darragh O’Brien (Glanworth)
11. Hugh O’Connor (Newmarket) Captain
12. Jack O’Neill (Castlehaven)
13. Ross Corkery (Nemo Rangers)
14. Ed Myers (Naomh Abán)
15. Dara Sheedy (Bantry Blues)
16. Michael O’Connell (St Michaels)
17. Fionnan Leahy (St Michael’s)
18. Mark Óg O’Sullivan (Bantry Blues)
19. Trevor Kiely (Mallow)
20. Aaron O’Sullivan (Aghabullogue)
21. Gearoid Kearney (Kinsale)
22. Luke O’Herlihy (St Michael’s)
23. Darragh Clifford (Éire Óg)
24. Olan O’Donovan (Barryroe)

Additional Panel Members;

Alan Kelleher (St Colums), Billy Curtin (Valley Rovers), Bryan Hayes (Nemo Rangers), Darragh Gough (Clonakilty), Darragh O’Donovan (Bishopstown), Kieran McCarthy (Carrigaline), Michael Maguire (Castlehaven), Niall Kelly (Newcestown), Olan Corcoran (St Marys), Patrick O’Grady (Killavullen), Rory Kavanagh (St Michaels), Timmy Cullinane (Carbery Rangers).

Harnedy and Hoggie have given great service to Cork. Lehane has been around the scene for the last twelve years though, but he never became the marque forward for Cork that he promised to be. As for Damien Cahalane he's had his good games for Cork but he is very prone to rash lapses of discipline.

Cork just shouldn't be starting three fellas in their thirties in the forwards. While we do need to give the younger lads a chance, to be fair to them both Hoggie and Harnedy have been our two best and most consistent forwards for the last decade and a bit.

That game was an ambush in waiting in hindsight. The more open spaces of the Pairc and Thurles will suit us better i think.

Minor Hurling v Waterford on Thursday at 7

Cork 5-18 Clare 0-13 FT

Minor hurling Cork 2-8 Waterford 0-7 HT

Vey dominant win