Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

If I was the next person receiving a car that had (let's say) 750km on the clock, would I pay full retail for it or consider it to be new?

Perhaps I would as long as the €3k discount applied and the full warranty was in place. No issues with handing back so close to the sale, but just trying to "game out" in my head what the next purchaser of the car might be willing to pay....

What sort of discount would CPO typically have on the comparable retail price?

yeh, I’ve zero interest in the performance improvements - it’s already a 6sec family saloon car.

€12k buys a lot of supercharging if you needed it, and still get probably 85% of the real world range

It is the second time I read the VRT mistake so I looked a bit deeper into the issue.

Based on some combinations on both Model Y and 3 I deduced the VRT reduction to follow the equation

VRT rebate =3100 - 0.31* (OMSP -40k), 40k<OMSP,50k 

why this particular slope I don't know but based on this and the OMSP for the cheaper Model 3 is 41,113.22 VRT rebate is 2,754.90 VRT@7% from OMSP = 2,877.93 Subtract the rebate ⇒ VRT payable = 123.03

Unless there is a mistake on the whole website for all combinations I think the 123 amount for the VRT is correct.

I'm very disappointed they didn't increase the horsepower output of the performance M3. The battery must be at its limit. Performance figures haven't changed.

I'm seeing conflicting horsepower figures on the tesla site. Tesla US says the car has more than 500hp (Marques brownlee quotes 510hp). Tesla Ireland says the car has 460hp… maybe they made a mistake quoting the LR horsepower instead of performance?

Will the Seal AWD be your next car given the performance figures hasn't changed? I wonder if BYD will release a performance Seal🤔

In the CO2 information panel it lists the power as 461kW, I assume in the "unleashed performance" section they forgot to convert it to HP.

Tesla is quoting the combined maximum power output for each motor. But the actual power delivered by both motors at any one time is not the same.

A 2023 Model 3 performance uses the 3D3 motor for the front. Total output is 137kw(184hp) @ 6390rpm - Peak power is produced at 90km/h.
The 3D6 powered the rear motor. Max output is 220kw(295hp) @ 5000rpm - peak power produced at 77km/h. (Source based off Tesla China owner's manual from 2023: https://evcentral.com.au/tesla-mystery-solved-exactly-how-much-power-your-model-3-and-model-y-produces-in-australia-revealed/ )

This gives us a total HP output of 479hp.
If you look on the subsystems sections of Tesla Taiwan owners manual you'll see the previous gen M3P has a rated peak power of 450hp.
That's a difference of approx. 6.24%.
137kW(front motor) - 6.24% = 128.4512kW (172hp)
220kW(rear motor) - 6.24% = 206.272kW (276hp)
Total output = 449hp

Now for the case of the M3HP. They upgraded 4th generation rear motor which generates more continuous(22%) and peak power(32%). Peak power for the latest generation motor should be around 290kW(389hp).

M3HP uses the same front motor, so 290kW(389hp) + 137kW(184hp) = 427kW or 572.6hp total combined output for Made in China cars using LG 79kWh battery.
There's approx. 23% difference between the theoretical peak max(572hp) and actual output(450hp). It doesn't make sense to me if we were supposed to get the upgraded motor and retaining the same battery. Performance is rated the same as previous M3P. I'm assume the advertised upgraded motor peak power gain was measured using the Panasonic battery.
Maybe I'm fudging the maths🤔

so I had a test drive in a standard model 3 the weekend and was doing some numbers as I’m tempted to go ahead with the purchase.Although when I add the stealth gray colour which is advertised as €2000 the actual total cost jumps by €3225 because of some VRT malarkey I don’t understand. I really don’t want the white version and was willing to pay €2000 for the stealth gray but now I’m debating if it’s worth €3225 extra. Am I reading the numbers right? Seems like a big VRT jump just for an optional extra paint job.

Yeah I did consider that but the wraps have a relatively short lifespan and I would rather just get the factory stealth grey. Maybe I’ll just wait a few months as the prices seem all over the place right now! Did they ever offer other colours free as standard for a few months previously or am I thinking about the white interior.

All colours increase the VRT including blue albeit not as much but you still pay more than €1300.

The differences are the VRT that’s applied to extras. Unless the paint is the one that’s free, then the price of the car is more, and then VRT added