Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022 - Read OP

So freedom of religion and freedom of expression and people's personal opinions mean nothing to You and are not worth Protection. Your posts seem all over the place and quite hypocritical.

I honestly have no idea what your issue is unless you believe the legislation should just state what you think it should.

Noo. Priests can indeed be charged with incitement to hatred. They are not protected from prosecution. What is protected is merely religion.

NNo it doesn't.

You are now doing exactly what you were complaining about earlier in the thread. Just because someone thinks something doesn't make it incitement to hatred.

You believe calling homosexuality a sin, is incitement to hatred, that doesn't mean it is.

And why would you believe that just because someone says they believe gender identity is a sin, that would be incitement to hatred? There is no reason to believe that.

Freedom of expression and personal opinions are not incitement to hatred.

You didn't make a point, except to prove mine.

Just because someone thinks or believes something is a crime, doesn't make it so.

Harris says that "woke" is an offensive term..will this mean you could have your house raided by gaurdai for calling someone woke under this legislation

I think the bigger problem is that some folk have bought into this notion of "far right scum" everywhere - it's very much reminiscent of the Reds Under the Bed anti-Communism thing of 1950s America, ie: largely fantasy!

It's a convenient distraction and boogeyman for those who need/are led by such things I suppose, and prevents focus on the real issues caused by/failings of those peddling such paranoid nonsense.

This is an overwhelmingly tolerant, relaxed and even politically apathetic country as a rule. I will keep saying this as even a cursory look at the policies and social reforms/changes of the last 30 years will show how ridiculous it is to suggest that we're harbouring a dangerous dissident element determined to destroy it all.

What we have is a small, very small number of extreme idiots - on both "sides" - but to suggest it's anything more than that is naive at best, disingenuous at worst.

As I've also repeatedly said, this is not America where such claims may have more legitimacy because of the extremely polarised and divisive nature of their politics and society in general - but that goes back generations and has factors like actual, real racism (not the offence-crying attention seeking dramatics we see a lot of here and which undermines and discourages the reporting of actual incidents) and discrimination as a cause.

America is a country tearing itself apart, but we're nothing like that - but certain social media obsessed elements are certainly trying their best through the attempts to import their ideologies and conflicts into our society where they have no place, no basis, and no real support.

What you are referring to as "far right" is in fact an increasing number of ordinary people who have had enough of this. Who are tired of being told what to think about things they know to be false, or to be told to shut up or risk being labelled some -ist or -phobe.... In other words : a resurgence of common sense and reality based thinking pushing back against ideology and divisive agendas.

Not many are buying this nonsense anymore and we'll all be the better for it when the shift back is complete.

I think that some people need to stop relying on social media as the barometer for truth and look around themselves in the real world more.

In that real world no one condones arson or advocates for anyone to be murdered or driven out. You're confusing social media idiocy for reality. You're assuming statistical outliers (small numbers of idiots who will cause trouble regardless) as representing the behavior of the majority which is just flatly wrong.

But there is nothing at all wrong with people expressing concern, asking questions, or expecting their views to be heard and represented by politicians they've elected. That's as it should be. Not everyone is able to express themselves as smoothly as a politician or legal expert, but it doesn't mean that their opinion isn't important and shouldn't be heard.

To suggest that only views and opinions that are "approved" / an unknown "consensus" agree with is to go down a very dark path in a democratic society - which we certainly still claim to be.

Wow, just minor damage caused by deliberate arson for a building to house foreigners? Well, that's ok. Sure barely even a crime at all 🙄

far more to this than you realise or what I am willing to put here on a public forum.

But a false narrative was put out in the public domain, which then set in motion events that followed.

As I said, people need to stop believing everything RTE report.

There are far right scum running wild in this country at the moment and they are spreading their hate through the social media you rail against. People who spread hate against minorities through social media need to be dealt with and this is exactly the function of this legislation.

We can't update incitement to violence, it doesn't exist.

What type of far left hate? All types of extremism should be unwelcome in decent democratic society, but I haven't seen much of this far left scum, you speak of