Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

A rather disgusting defence of people being beaten to death and others being killed by being deprived of their medication.

motivated to do what, commit genocide?

Here's a hot take: the number of civilians killed matters.

Let's go to the extremes. The most evil regimes in history are the ones that killed the most civilians. That's the benchmark for how evil a regime is. No-one ever looks at a government that committed no crimes and goes "they're really evil". We even use it for individuals. Mass murderers and serial killers are more evil because they kill more people.

Let's go to the other end then. If the number of civilians killed by Israel doesn't matter, then the crimes of hamas don't matter.

See how ridiculous that argument is? Civilian deaths matter. they are each innocent people killed. And the fact that you don't care of 10 or 100, or 1000, or 10,000 or 100,000 civilians are killed says everything we need to know about you.

BTW, they weren't prepared for a Hamas attack. It's been 6 months and Hamas are still there so they obviously weren't prepared to attack Hamas. As for equiped, I'll give you that. they have gone through billions and billions in weapons and they still ahven't won. And as for more motivated? Do you mean more motivated to kill civilians? Or do you mean the fact that they don't care about civilians means they're more motivated?

Hot take? No, it's just ignorant, one sided and quite evil. Israel is not trying to kill more civilians and they are not to blame for the higher number of civilian casualties. Hamas is the one to blame, they are the ones hiding among civilians and using them as human shields.

Nonsense.

Is China under international sanctions for the way they treat millions of Ughyers?

But I never knew that one cannot receive or send a letter to Russia because of sanctions…

The fact is, people see the only Jewish state as 'different' to the rest and must be treated 'different' to the rest.

Boycotting products is different from refusing to handling mail. It’s a country, not everyone there would even agree with the war or the government. It’s a basic service that everyone is entitled to. I find it more troubling that people think these types of things are acceptable.

These people were already behind bars in many cases. You do realise that literally thousands of palestinians are detained without trial? A practice that well predates the Oct 7th attack.

Is much Russian mail handled by An Post?

Yes.

yet these same schools and ages are seen a fit time and place to learn about Hitler and the Holocaust. What’s the difference here?

Isn't it obvious?

WWII happened more than 80 years ago and there has been plenty of time to come up and revise the content for an agreed-upon curriculum to be taught in schools.

This conflict is happening now and a bunch of people want to use it to push a political agenda in schools.

That is the difference.

Do you mean they sanctioned a few individuals, not the entire country?

Not the same thing is it?

The sanctions, including travel bans and asset freezes, target senior officials in Xinjiang who have been accused of serious human rights violations against Uighur Muslims.

Bollocks. School is a grand place to discuss contemporary issues. Plenty of examples of it. Students aren’t oblivious to the world around them, just as in my day lessons were routinely contextualized with what was going on in Iraq and Afghanistan and Post 9/11

Please quantify how much Russian mail An Post handles vs. Russian mail. Justify this off topic whataboutery.

I didn't call you evil. Maybe I shouldn't have used it at all, but my point was that it is evil wrong to condemn a country that is just trying to prevent any more attacks on its civilians by any means necessary. Israel should not stop until its population is safe, and at the moment it isn't. Organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah are still active, and also hostile countries like Iran are still a threat. Hostages are still held by Palestinians. Hamas rockets are still flying - that became so normalized it's not even in the news anymore.

Unfortunately I have not the slightest problem in comprehending Israel's actions. It's wanton killing for the sake of assuaging the blood lust of the settler factions Netenyahu needs onside to stay in power. Genocide, because we hate those inferior Palestinian scum. An accelleration of the kill them, or drive them out, and take their land and homes policy that has held sway since the state of Israel was formed.

I don't know if you just don't see the lack of logic or you do see it but you're arguing in bad faith.

So how does Israel using blackmail to turn gay Palestinian into informers sit with you?

define safe. Until everyone else is dead? Half? 100,000? A million?