General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

3-0. what a pass by odegard!

Nicolas Jackson.

He's not a footballer.

I don't know what he is, but he's not that.

Fcuking hell this is embarrassing from Chelsea

Arsenal have really put that Champions League disappointment behind them in short order.

5-0! WTF?!?!

.. maybe the summer

so it really is Cole Palmer or bust for Chelsea.

Feels like what hope they had individually of coming good, is significantly diminished from being part of a youthful inexperienced collective. Who are they meant to be learning from, and looking up to? A real lack of experience there - especially anyone with any roots in the club.

It's great to see them struggling. Bohleys coming in and acting like billy big balls and now they are stuck with a load of young lads who haven't performed on 8 years contracts.

THe only way we will see any fight from these Chelsea players tonight is if they are awarded a penalty

Certainly some talented individuals but like you say, who’s there to help take the pressure off them with some experience? I can’t imagine they have as much financial wiggle room this summer after their recent splurges, interesting times ahead, happy to see em flounder.

In fact, I just went back over the season, and there have been only five gameweeks so far where at least one team didn't score at least four goals.

This week alone there has been a 4-0, 5-0, 5-1 and a 5-2, and other highlights include gameweek 25 (a pair of 4-1s and 5-0s) and gameweek 23 (4-1, 4-4, 5-0, 4-2).

Lapping it all up

Nah they'll be fine, they just sold two hotels to themselves, nothing to see here....

I think the thing that Todd (or whoever he has in charge) really underestimated is just how hard it is to identify who is going to go from highly rated young player to superstar.

Think about all the players over the years who were hyped up to be the next Ronaldo, the next Zidane, the next Henry so on. And then think about where the vast majority of those players ended up.

They tried to pick up as many of the highly rate players in the age bracket as they could but that's was always gonna lump them with some duds statically.

Then you look at some of the players signed and you'd have to question how much info they actually had on them before moving on them.

Delighted to see a club like Chelsea get it so wrong I have to say.

Preseason can be awful that way sometimes… you think you've a serious player on your hands, but ultimately get fooled by just how low and lax the preseason level really is. I remember the summer Voronin and Torres joined Liverpool, and Voronin thoroughly outshone Torres in preseason - looked like an absolute superstar in that relaxed low-pressure environment.

Jackson looks the sort where the technical ability is there, but just not the head for the pressure. Falls apart in front of goal with the simplest of finishes in front of him. Could see him being alright as a second-striker with a partner who takes all the goalscoring responsibility though. Still not good enough i think, but could at least carve out a viable role.

If he wins a league I think he could be compared to a Klopp needs to do a lot more to be compared to Pep though

I don't think titles or cups are the sole basis of a managers ability considering it's a team game with a lot of staff in the background. However, a big competition win would immediately place him on Klopp level but as regard to Pep, he can't really be compared with anyone given the unlimited funds at his disposal. While maybe not as charismatic and frank as Klopp, Arteta is quite likeable and has a good image which always helps in this.