Automatic Red Light and Bus Lane Cameras Coming

About time. Bane of my existence them.

For the naysayers, it's easy; stay the fcuk out of bus lanes and obey the red lights and you'll be grand.

There's something about the timing of traffic lights in Dublin that induces a lot more impatience than I experience in other places. For example, Northern Irish traffic light timing seems to go more for shorter phases but less time between phases. Whereas Dublin is mostly long phases with a lot of waiting if you miss one.

I'd be curious about any data on this, I can imagine it doesn't help discourage red light jumping.

But what about my rights as a motorist to break the law?

More repression of the car owning class by the walking and cycling mafia, this.

I'll bet you that the fine for bus lanes which has nothing to do with road safety will be similar to that for breaking a read light, which is plain dangerous.

Private vehicles staying out of bus lanes is a safety issue for bicycle and motorcyclists. I've seen plenty of dangerous driving behaviours by those illegally using Bus lanes to skip traffic and it won't stop until they're caught and fined..

Timing of lights frustrates pedestrians and cyclists

If traffic lights are designed to frustrate car drivers, that translates to bus users since buses are lumped in with general traffic due to a lack of meaningful bus priority.

I was on a bus recently travelling along Dublin's North Quays at about 6 a.m. Almost every traffic light the bus approached turned red for the full sequence of opposing traffic, the pedestrian sequence and the cyclist head-start despite almost no opposing traffic, pedestrians or cyclists.

The pedestrian lights at both Millennium Bridge and Hapenny Bridge both turned red at exactly the same time, despite not being activated by any pedestrians.

If Dublin City Council have a programme of attempting to deliberately frustrate road users, then mission accomplished.

Agree with bk, pedestrian lights in Ireland take an absolute age to go green, especially in a large junction mixed cycle.

Pedestrian green should match vehicle green per direction of travel with turning cars having to yield initially until ped light go back to red. That's how it's done here in NZ and it speeds up everything massively by removing redundant cycles of lights specifically for pedestrians at most junctions

The election cycle, nobody would remember if they did it mid-cycle. Now it looks like it will be done by the end of the year and a General Election coming early next year. That's not a coincidence

Kevin/Bride Street is one of those horrific junctions that DCC do so well. A better local authority like DLRCC would radically rethink it.

Dublin City Council have a "rate my signals" site where you can comment on a particular set of lights:

https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/transportation/faulty-traffic-signals-lights/rate-my-signals

whether they act on these reports, IDK - I reported the glacially slow pedestrian lights outside Pearse Station, but I guess they won't make any change around there until after the through-traffic changes come into effect in the autumn.

In the situation of the amber flashing light, cyclists in cycle lanes are meant to wait for the green pedestrian crossing and give way to vehicles on the road. A cycle lane was designed without a light for cyclists is a bad and dangerous design

In a "turn on red" situation, cars would have to give right of way to pedestrians and cyclists who would have a green light. Although I think it would complicate things for drivers who already aren't great at driving

This is what I'm imagining anyway. At the traffic island, the orange flashing light, cars follow orange line. Green highlight is cycle lane running parallel to road. Any other layout in my mind is dangerous

When it's safe for bikes to cross the road they get a green light like below

That's a dangerous setup in my mind. Cyclists going straight should be stopped in this instance until the red arrow for traffic turning left appears.

While I get that it's well intentioned it will cause confusion and inevitable injuries and even possible deaths

As a pedestrian I'm really not a fan of this. You often get cars impatiently inching their way forward or driving through gaps where people are crossing.

Was driving up in Dublin this week and saw a couple red lights run by cars but mostly those sailing through the red lights were ahem.. cyclists.

Incredibly well if you're in a car maybe.

I'm talking about my experience of right turn on red in other European countries. Thankfully we don't have that here. It's a policy that only benefits cars and is more dangerous for pedestrians.

One dodgy turn in the city centre where this flashing amber should be implemented is the right turn from Ormond Quay onto Capel Street bridge. Not everyone would be expecting cyclists coming from their right whatever about their left either that or it should be a red for cyclists very dangerous junction.

It's not always the case that allowing cars to turn and cross pedestrians/cyclists speeds up the light signals. In the clip above DCC, traffic on Conynham Road turning left could get green to make that turn when traffic on Infirmary Road gets green to come onto Conynham Road. That would be far safer for pedestrians and cyclists. I'm sure the same applies at most junctions, the left turn can be made during an existing phase which has to remain and where pedestrians can't cross and cyclists can't continue straight anyway. Allowing those turns certainly is for the benefit of drivers alone.

For drivers turning left, it can be difficult to judge when there is sufficient time to turn across a cycle lane. Looking in a wing mirror (assuming they look at all) and cyclists travel at different speeds. It's a recipe for disaster and I would say will certainly contribute to driver frustration and injuries to pedestrians and cyclists.