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Tom Murphy and Mercedes dealership

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,712 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...and chatting to mechanic's wouldnt exactly fill you with confidence either....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    No absolutely not, having come from the land of Audi, I was always happy that their mechanics "on the whole" knew what they were talking about and had pride in their work, I'm sorry to say and I await the backlash but I haven't got much confidence in Tradespeople in Ireland in general. I know there are good trades people but maybe I have been unlucky in people that say they will and can do something and don't provide the service they advertised



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,712 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    i know a couple of lads that trained with our local audi dealer, none with good stories, all gone now, and doing their own thing, and thankfully so, sounds like a hell hole to work in....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    Mercs . prices way over the scale now , over €60k for a fairly standard C class , no wonder sales so far behind the other two Germans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    BYD gone into old T & C motors premises , thought maybe Bolands might have put Mercedes in there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    Any update on Tom Murphy car sales on the Mercedes franchise?

    Autobolands alfa fiat and jeep showroom is completed months ago now but they don't seem to be moving in .

    Don't know why Simon kavanaghs don't take on MG



  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,039 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Tom Murphy is taking over Toyota and Lexus from the end of the year apparently, McConnells informed their staff of this earlier this month. When it was announced that he was losing Mercedes, he approached Toyota about Lexus only, but Toyota wouldn't separate the two, so hence he had to go after both brands. The word on the street is TM has lost VW also, there is no word on anyone taking up VW as of yet as VW only give out an initial 2 year franchise with no further guarantees that it continues after that time.

    As a person in the know told me, dealers across the SE are reluctant to take on VW as the initial investent to get it off the ground with no guarantees of a longer deal with VW is a massive problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    it’s because both Mercedes and VW are rolling out the agency sales model throughout Europe which severely affects traditional dealerships ability to negotiate on price, and make profits. Cars will be ordered online for a fixed price, it will then be up to the dealership to negotiate only on the trade in, if there is one. There is currently little incentive for privately owned dealerships like TM to invest in expensive showrooms, it’s time to cut costs and see who survives the transfer to agency. Virtually all car manufacturers want the Tesla way of selling cars, online ordering which cuts out the middleman/dealership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    Word is that Mercedes wanted huge investment in showrooms with no long term guarantee and Murphy's would not bite. Not a question of losing franchises rather not being willing to commit to huge investment at this time. Mercedes only have 2.5% or thereabouts market share.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    "McConnells informed their staff of this earlier this month."

    Do what's going to happen with them?



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  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,039 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Some of their staff will be finishing up with them at the end of September. Some other garages have already looked at the premises, but no one has shown any real interest in it up to about 10 days ago anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    Wow that's mad news wouldn't have ever imagined Tom Murphy not selling Vw

    Mc connells not a great Toyota dealer . Maybe they will take on MG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭ltdslipdiff


    'Not a great dealer' in what sense??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    I know there were a couple of lads there with a bad reputation among people I know, and my own experience when I went there. But they retired since, so maybe it changed.

    But I found them grand for services at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Is that your way of saying they didn’t sell you the car you wanted for the price you wanted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    No, it's my way of saying they were utterly uninterested in selling a car at all. It's like I was just in the way and they wanted me out as quickly as possible, despite being the only customer there at the time. I didn't even get as far as talking about prices or trade-ins.

    I've heard the same from others that this couple were just like this to deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    No I meant premises are not that old but look low rent and outdated

    Rather dull stock too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    I’ve never found that myself, but do appreciate that different people can have different experiences. Given that they most likely work on sales targets and commission, it would be unusual to find a car salesperson who doesn’t want to sell cars. Is it possible they mightn’t have been interested in what you were trading in? It’s the only reason I can think of why they wouldn’t want to sell you a car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Like I said, I didn't even get to mentioning a trade-in. Guy in Clonmel practically bit my hand off for my old car, so they got my money instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    Always found them decent to deal with.

    Buying a car anywhere can depend on time of the month for sales figures. Often better to buy late in a calendar month when dealer may be anxious to sell to make up quota..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    Strange tom murphys Mercedes display looks better than ever despite looking franchise in near future ..they don't have many used cars as seem to sell alot of cars to the trade . Wouldn't be surprised if they don't appoint another MB Dealer in WD



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭dzilla


    I think that Wexford will become the regional dealership and that locally more events / customer days will happen in Waterford like the customer weekend they did at Faithlegg house last summer. I don't see a main dealership in Waterford long term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    Wonder what will happen to sheehys ? Like murphys their premises aren't standalone but cost millions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    I believe that Murphy's were offered it, but huge investment in light of new sales system, was the sticking point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    The investment could have been made during celtic years but MB let them build dual franchise dealerships when audi and bmw had already moved away from this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭Deisedarren


    Sheehys put planning in kilkenny for a dealership, not sure What franchise

    ePlan - Online Planning Details



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Spark Plug


    The Kilkenny dealership that Sheehys are seeking planning for will be for Mercedes after it’s built Carlow will be VW only. Wonder did they try to buy or lease the old Young Motors showroom to me it would be a safety strategy rather than spending several million on a franchise that could go agency



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    I would not invest in a car showroom business, regardless of brand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭goochy


    Leasing youngs for a few years seems like the sensible thing to do . Then buy it or build a new place if business good . Is there enough business to have a standalone business so close to Wexford ? If direct selling comes in they both can only sell to local area. Bolands seem to sell to a large area



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  • Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭curmudgeonly


    I asked why and was told the bespoke furniture has not arrived!



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