Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

One of the reasons why they left the EU to end freedom of movement. When Britain was an EU member, they could intercept and return the boats to France, but they lost this privilege after Brexit. Before Brexit, the migrants would stowaway in the back of lorries. The boats came after Brexit.

Amazing turn of events on this thread that people who were pilloried and warned for consistently highlighting how this international protection game is just an umbrella for traffickers to ship economic migrants around. Now even the people living in the aptly named “cuckoo land” are starting to wake up.

It was also stated that we are just at the start of a rather long challenge with economic and climate based people movements.

The UK are simply creating the environment for the people who entered illegally from the EU to return to the EU unfortunately that happens to be here. Sunak is trying to save his skin re: local elections and possible bad results Friday. All we needed from McEntee and Martin was a few days silence not much to ask considering they have been silent on this acknowledgement of our migration crisis for some years now. But no as always if a misstep was possible yep they made it.

We need to create the environment for people who entered the EU illegally to be returned and not leaving Greece and Italy to absorb it or us in this case.

Any entry to the EU outside of designated at source official asylum processes should exclude people from officially requesting asylum or any future route to citizenship. That’s something the EU should immediately do at least it prevents the access to the existing facilities designed for genuine cases and eliminates this wasteful spending on hotels via the family and friends of FFFG.

Ireland should declare our inability to meet these “fictional” international obligations talked about by Harris McEntee and Leo and so on. Shut down the money printing happening for FFFG cronies housing migrants.

Engaging in criminality should ensure citizenship is revoked for all those given it like confetti in the previous years of insanity.

A complete root and branch reform of how welfare is distributed and the criteria for accessing it and again with special focus on the cohort on welfare coming through the EU free movement of people. We also need to align all existing Ukrainian inflated benefits to what the rest of the EU is giving - as an outcome of the current turn of events.

This has been a telegraphed crisis years in the making which the incompetent politicians “we want to be best in class EU champions!” Have sold us down the river.

We need proper crisis management in this situation. i think we need a general election as soon as possible. Also if you are unhappy with the government handling of this situation please reflect this in the voting for the local and EU elections and yes please vote. Let the FFFG Green candidates get a response for their years of contempt for Irish citizens.

The count down on our tax payer ratio shifting from 5-1 to 2-1 is on and less than 20 years and us as citizens passively letting Leo and M Martin sleep walk us to financial ruin by pumping billions down the toilet and forward planning housing and service commitments against an almost unknown demand and unsustainable, unfunded model simply has to stop.

Hope they like camping.

Two squad cars looking into tents outside the offices of the Irish Times… surely after the immigration cheerleading of the occupants nobody there complained? Hmmm.

Great post , but unfortunately nothing will change.

I honestly dont mean this as an insult or trolling but currently ireland governed by politicians that would be out of their depth running a hen house. And voters of which sizeable numbers dont deserve a vote.

We were speaking with neighbours recently about upcoming local elections and the need to give this current regime a solid kick in the nads. Here in limerick the absolute scandalous wasting of public funds. But no , out of 9 neighbours 8 were voting for a candidate who lives locally. This man the biggest cheerleader for unfettered immigration a our doors are open , we are so rich etc.

He is getting votes purely because , sure he only lives around the corner.

Ireland isnt a place i can see myself living in beyond next 5 years.

You get the government you deserve.

So since 2020 how many AS have we sent back to the UK that came via NI? Before Rwanda was in the pipeline?

Anyone? I'd wager a big fat fcuking zero.

Fools lapping this charade up. Rwanda/UK/Brexit are not to blame for this $hitshow.

Successive Irish governments are. The people we all vote for are. Not the EU or the UK. Irish politicians are to blame.

MM was never ever ever ever going to go against Brussels - god forbid he wasn't the best boy in the class.

I imagine it's got something to do with the fact that we have only experienced high levels of asylum seeker entry at one moment in the history of the State — and that's since the Ukraine crisis broke out in 2022. It has simply never been a priority issue because it has never really been a major problem in Ireland.

The difference now is that we took in a large number of IPAs after the Ukraine war began — like many other countries across Europe — and our ability to handle numbers of this volume on a long term basis is lacking. So I don't think it's all that opportunistic that we take issue with the UK openly suggesting that they will use the Irish border to pass IPAs to Ireland in whatever number.

An election I suppose — an election where I'm sure there are many on this thread who could have a go at running against her and as she is so stupid they would all easily win. I expect to see a huge number of people competing to run against her....(!)

I'm not condoning the policy suggested on this thread but nevertheless find this remarkable given the narrative being pushed around obligations and laws, as if both were immutable.

It turns out government can draft new legislation. Who would have guessed?

Because she, like any other politician, is subject to the democratic process. You asked what it would take to remove her — people can remove her by not voting for her or not voting for her party.

We haven't a snowballs chance in hell of improving anything in Africa. Even food aid is looted by the strong and sold to the weak for profit. Any cash investments are stolen by the connected African elites or their families.

The aid industry is an abject failure. The people there need to demand an end to corruption and sort out their own countries without any interference from the west.

Can actually never see Helen loosing her seat unless she decides not to run. From the area and I can tell you she has a core support that will vote for her regardless.

Well, no. But you are asking what it would take to remove her, and suggesting that she is too stupid to resign, so if the people want to remove her by not voting for her or her party, they can. I'm not sure what you're objecting to here.

Rwanda looks about as safe as here.