New bus gates on Bachelors Walk and Aston Quay

The council has been pushing traffic onto the quays for decades, by closing alternative routes (which I had no problems with). Now they are blocking the quays in places, without showing where the traffic should go access parts of the city centre (where currently one is forced onto the quays).

Private cars can still access the city, but there should be a reduction in pollution as a result which everyone will benefit from.

Dublin City Centre will just turn into a wasteland with scumbags hanging around, no shops as the numbers coming into town will just reduce, it's actually ridiculous what they are proposing. Dublin City Council just ruining Dublin together with Eamon Ryan.

Nothing to do with a Bus Lane, more to do with the Justice system and number of Gardai on the streets.

That's what we've been told but it's not actually the case. The new bus gates limit access to destinations to the east of O'connell St not just through traffic.

Congestion on the quays is bad essentially for one reason, the sequences of traffic lights - particularly the operation of the bus crossover light. This light forces traffic down to a single lane and has poor timings

Really looking forward to it myself, should make my cycle commute through the city centre a little bit less life threatening 😁

People need to remember that the number of buses using the Quays east of Winetavern Street will increase significantly when the D-Spine phase of BusConnects happens.

That will see a large number of routes re-routed away from Dame Street / College Green to the Quays which is one of the changes to facilitate the College Green Plaza.

Maintaining the status quo on the Quays just isn’t an option once that happens.

Let's get some facts from the actual plan into this thread:

• Private vehicle traffic along the North and South Quays will be removed at Bachelors Walk and Aston Quay, leaving the space for buses, taxis, cyclists and pedestrians only. Arrangements for deliveries and local access will be developed.
• Only public transport and cyclists will be allowed to turn left from Westland Row onto Pearse Street. A new right turn for general traffic will be introduced at this Junction and the section of Pearse Street from Westland Row to Sandwith Street will be made two-way. Westland Row will no longer be a through route to Pearse Street but will allow access towards the Samuel Beckett Bridge instead.
• There were two potential options around Custom House, and I believe they've gone for the option to close Custom House Quay and route all traffic around the back of the space.
• The above will also facilitate the reduction in traffic lanes on Gardiner Street from four lanes to two lanes allowing for safer pedestrian and cycling use of this area
• Traffic will be removed from College Green and Dame Street from the junction with George’s Street eastwards. Deliveries and limited access will be facilitated.
• Following the successful transformation of Capel Street into a traffic free environment, it is the intention to replicate this scheme on Parliament Street, introducing a car free corridor for pedestrian and cyclists on the western edge of city centre retail core.
• Potential for a pedestrianised Lincoln Place
• Access into the Inner Core will be maintained for necessary trips; Car traffic without a destination in the Inner
  Core will be redirected as far as possible via alternative existing routes; On selected streets, general car traffic will
  be removed; A 30kph speed limit will be introduced on all roads in the City Centre
• Access to City Centre Car Parks will be maintained, as required, and will be managed to ensure that sustainable transport and public realm objectives can be realised
• The redevelopment or repurposing of the most centrally-located multi-storey car parks will be pursued
• Not fully detailed in the draft plan is the establishment of a new inner orbital route for private car traffic. My guess would be a Patrick Street, High Street, Dorset Street, North Circular Road, and Samuel Beckett Bridge alignment for this.

These changes are long overdue, and should bring significant improvements to the public transport infrastructure in Dublin. And even some of these changes will benefit car drivers too — for example the change to Gardiner Street, if you've driven on it before you know how much chaos and swerving is caused by the ersatz four lane nature of the street. If this is simplified to 2 lanes, a lot of the traffic conflicts are removed and things will proceed much more smoothly.

Some delivery timelines:

And some prospective drawings of public realm improvements:

And most of those cars seen on OCS are there to access the Arnotts carpark

You can do the more roundabout route. It'll probably be quicker right now anyway.

Oh actually I forgot — if you're coming from the South West, you won't need to make any adjustments to get to the Ilac car park — Bachelors Walk will be the bus gate, which means private cars will probably be forced off the Quays at Jervis Street. Which is where you'd go to get to the Ilac anyway.

And yes, the whole point definitely is that you'll need to take a more roundabout route as a private car driver.

The Quays are an integral part of our public transport network. They 100% need to be more efficient for buses.

You can use public transport.

I would assume so — the bus gate was specifically listed as being at Bachelors Walk and not the entire north Quays

Well, if Parliament St is closed you will have nowhere to go bar back to Heuston

Fishamble Street is the only exception to that — which may have some DCC staff and locals using it for access.

Google Maps works well for that..

Ah I remember the consternation from motorists when they pedestrianised Henry street.. "Ah now how am I supposed to get to Mary street!!? .. Drive all the way around? Are ye mad!!?"

who said it was an emergency ? It may need fixing, sure, but I never said it was an emergency. Normal yellow van going on a job. No blue lights.

Google maps has that route straight down the quays as of right now. What would your sensible route be ?

Keep the insanely niche scenarios coming folks, I'm sure we can solve them all!

That's only a stage off one of Pat Kenny's ones; in so far as its more plausible than them!

Someone wanting to go visit Kilmainham Gaol after a show in the Abbey.

Presumably the time machine required to get them to Kilmainham in time for last admission after even a matinee in the Abbey can't do relocation.

Family of four with two kids in buggies want to visit the Zoo and also somewhere else, can't remember where. Apparently can't do any distance with the kids in buggies yet can actually push them around the Zoo.

In fairness to old Pat he's no George Hook and has been reporting on traffic congestion for a very long time:

He's 76 years old now, perspectives change for sure…