Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

much of syria was flattened, the civil war isn't over there as far as i'm aware, but the amount of destruction would have caused millions to leave so some will end up here inevitably

Actually no, for a start Denmark never went ahead with the idea.

The Rwanda policy is very much based on Australia's offshoring solution. The Tories even had Australian advisers who had worked on that onboard.

It very much looks though that the Australian policy has been a disaster in every sense. After they introduced it the number of arrivals by boat actually increased. Some months later they introduced a push back system which looks to have been effective, albeit with Australia never actually having had a very large amount of boats arriving.

Australia paid billions to private contractors to hold people in brutal detention centres offshore, only to find many still wouldn't leave. Eventually the remainers were all given right to remain, or de facto have been allowed remain in Australia.

I think there's still compensation cases before the courts from their treatment. The total cost was billions.

I posted references to all this in the other thread, you'll forgive me if I don't go looking for them again.

Simon Harris claiming the Mount Street tents will be cleared and then not allowed to re-emerge there is just an outright lie.

Whenever the marginal supply of accommodation is tight, and they hand out tents at the IPO office on Mount Street along with the 110 euro a week, where are they going to go exactly?

What he is saying would be true only if we never run out of accommodation for any additional group of asylum seekers who enter the State from this point forward. Which proves conclusively that what he saying is a lie.

The only way to get on top of this is to dis-incentivise new arrivals through an openly hostile policy, such as Rwanda. Which we are a million miles from doing.

Harris has gone with option 3. He fears the Irish people the least.

Like clockwork, since last night the usual suspects in the media have restarted the failed playbook. The orders went out.

Your now a terrorist, according to them, if you oppose the governments stragedy of dumping the third world in your community to temporarily remove the problem from outside Roderics offices.

Mount Street will be cleared, the riot squad will be brought in to some unfortunate community that is about to have their world turned upside down.

The merry go round will go on untill they are brought down.

Doesn't matter what party/ministers are in power, the strings are being pulled from Brussels..

When they say 62% of first time applicants in January were refused, does that mean before they utilised their right to appeal?

Set up/hire out an ICE like organisation for the shadow economy. Name, shame and massively fine any company that hires illegals. Arrest and deport immediately any illegal working in the shadow economy. Set up a rat line so people can report businesses using illegal workers, have a €50 reward for every illegal found through this line.

What’s the bets that Asylum Seekers when filling out the questionnaire question “how did you arrive here?” …..will now be forgetting the GB & NI route. It’ll be “on a container ship from France”.

It’s all about playing the system.

If they have already a claim in another EU state, then they can be sent back there under Dublin regs, now they haven't been working well up to now, but the EU migration pact should deal with that.

The issue is not travelling through UK, it is that the UK left the EU, therefore they are not part of EU deals anymore.

Covid Stopped returns, then there was a High court case, by asylum seekers, looking to stop the state sending then back to the uk. The High Court allowed the case, stating that the UK is unsafe. Government now have to legislate that it is safe. Then returns can continue.

But, of course the UK can refuse to take them.

So, obviously the EU and the UK have to come to some agreement.

EU "solidarity" can be very fickle when it comes to the interests of Germany and sometimes France.

To put it bluntly …. It’s a **** show. Is Rwanda on Ireland’s safe list? I couldn’t find a full list of safe/unsafe on my quick google

Billions and billions and billions and billions...

Speaking of billions , the dept of integration paid out 2.3bn last year alone to companies supposedly housing AS.

So it costs billions regardless of which direction you go but if you build it they will come.

An open air prison off the west coast would deter plenty more than housing them and paying a few hundred a week to hamg around towms harrassing the locals.

Much Better bang for your billion IMO.

"Speaking of billions , the dept of integration paid out 2.3bn last year alone to companies supposedly housing AS"

Can you post a source for that? It does not sound correct.