Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Interesting piece earlier on Pat Kenny. Reporter Barry White says in July 23 he discovered at that time 75% of applications were made in person at Mount St. So Government were aware for a long time but only now are taking any action. He replayed a question to McEntee at the time where she gave a vague answer, all office speak but no detail.

He also played a clip of interviews with applicants. They all freely admit they crossed from the UK. One even had a mild Scottish accent.

What % of asylum seekers are successful? Where are the planes leaving Ireland to bring back unsuccessful applicants?

Asking for permission to remain in the state has a yes /no outcome. If we’re not saying yes, then we need to get our act together on deportations - it’s not a nice thing I know, but we can’t say yes to everyone and but part of this problem is that we’re just not doing what we’re supposed to be doing in the first place

Just looked at the figures for homeless. We appear to be at a new all time high of adults + child dependants.

13,866 March versus 13,841 in Feb

Number of child dependant homeless increased from 4,147 to 4,170

Except there has been no reports this time ? e.g.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/number-of-homeless-people-in-ireland-reaches-13531-in-another-record-1592824.html

It's actually shocking. I just checked Jan report and the same method yields 13,531

Homeless children has increased from 4,027 Jan —> 4,170 Mar

This is insane to me!

I heard most of that interview too. O'Gorman also says as Ukrainians leave some hotels will return to public use but others will instead be used for asylum seekers.

He said absolutely nothing about any attempt to reduce the numbers arriving. The only way I can see that happening is a change of government.

You need to understand that media in Ireland are speaking to other members of their own media tribe when they utter stuff like " were the squatters in the middle of Dublin asked if they wanted to move "

That the vast majority of radio listeners find such a question daft is irrelevant

It's about reassuring your tribe that you hold the right opinions and this Dobbo is not pleased about these folks being ushered along

Just watching Sky News and they're showing coverage of the UK Police detaining illegal immigrates in preparation for deporting them.

This is what I love to see in Ireland, just to see something been done would put my mind at ease some what

This whole Geneva Convention thing is something I've heard being said a few times. I don't particularly understand what the argument is — or rather what you actually think changing it or withdrawing from it would achieve.

Change the definitions and people will just claim they fit within the new definition anyway. OK you reject them regardless. Or you withdraw from Geneva entirely and reject people on the basis that Ireland does not recognise the concept of refugee. Excellent. But either way, the rejection does not make the person disappear in a puff of smoke. You still have to actually physically deal with them.

At the end of the day, refugees existed before the Geneva Convention existed, and would exist regardless of whether it stays, goes or changes.

Yes I agree wholeheartedly. We should be shipping back en masse

I hope our resident cheerleaders have a read of this one. I thought I read IPAs wouldn't interfere with housing supply

But what do you mean by carrot or stick?

Are we talking payments per deportation or dropping bombs?

I'm not sure either of those would do anything but make the situation worse.

But feel free to clarify on what you actually propose.

It was a tourism related business before that - school trips and corporate training days, wedding venue etc

In the post, I clearly stated "In whatever form that might have to take". I have not proposed any exact methods which is obvious in the context of the post. The list is essentially endless.

Shall i delve into minute detail for every response?

Well, Kevin Backhurst, the head of RTE is English.

Harris and the Government have made a big show of this removal of migrants from Mount St. with news crews from the UK following with interest and making the headlines in the UK media of "the Irish responding to the Tory Govt. Rwanda policy".. pure gold having this massive clean up and the huge numbers of Garda public order units escorting the migrants out to a place they previously all abandoned back around St. Patrick's day.. Harris and his Justice minister couldn't have made a bigger mess out of this situation if they tried!