Young losing their IQ advantage over old ( the Times )

I put it down to a lack of effort being put into getting the ride of a Saturday night.

Lads used to have their wits about them. Women definitely had to have their wits about them.

Now they just get messed up on cocaine, have a flirt over snapchat, and then have a fumble down an alleyway.

No conversation, no thinking, no effort required. That's where they're falling down.

Yes seeing the actual text it quite clear that the headline misrepresents the actual study in a fundamental way. Looks like a sort of culture wars kids are not what they used to be puff piece.

Regardless of whether IQ is a good metric of intelligence, it's quite evident that younger generations aren't quite a clued in as the ones who went before them. I find, you have to spoon-fed them in order to get something done or a project complete. If it strays anywhere outside of anything they do repetitively day to day there is zero initiative or an ability to work out a solution. Its lift the phone and ask how to get round the issue or just stop completely.

There's more evidence of this dumbing down that just IQ tests

I worked in the public libraries, way back in the early 80s a family and their neighbours from a certain road in Terenure were all members of Mensa, staff were told the 3 month old baby was too. Almost entire end of the road was filled with members of Mensa, all of whom who could circumvent borrowing limitation by decree of City Librarian who was a friend of the head bottkewadher in Mensa, who lived on that road. I’m sure there were some very intelligent people, but it was a complete farce the way the babe in arms was deemed to have an IQ of 150+.

Interestingly, Brendan O’Carroll is a card carrying member of Mensa.

No big tech industry want employees with initiative, they want highly technically skilled people who can follow procedures to the absolute letter. If an employee deviates in the slightest way then an exception procedure is initiated and this brings with it huge employee stress.

So perfectionism of a certain type is an absolute necessity for a big tech employee - if you haven't got it you will be out the door in short measure.

Think this sums up your point.

Phone calls are incredibly inefficient, I work 90% in emails for communications. It’s easy to prove what was said and far faster than talking on the phone. Most people working do this regardless of their generation.

The kids aren't alright.

That’s purely because you’re using one of the most overused stereotypes of the younger generation, “they’re all lazy and want everything handed on a plate for them”.

For context, I’m 31, had my first job at 14, did well in school, went to college and left after 18 months as the course wasn’t for me. Worked consistently in different jobs. Went back to college at 27 and did a 3 year degree while working full time. 9 hours work followed by 3 hours after in the college, got a 1st and in a so called good job now.
There were many in my degree around my age in a similar situation and I’m just sick of hearing how “lazy” us younger people are.

That might be true in certain kinds of manufacturing of high value products, but it's definitely not true in other domains like software or any kind of product design, which are still to a significant extent people oriented business. Technical skill and attention to detail are still critically important, but so is initiative, and creative thinking ability to solve problems.

That's true. Emails or else that strange hybrid that is instant messaging, like Slack. You even get people then scolding you for trying to use instant messaging in a phone-call style. The young have just grown up without much use of the phone (for calls) and don't know how to use it. Another thing that's going to wither in the same way, is hand-writing. The last time I wrote something other than my signature, was the Christmas card list and I couldn't believe how hard it was.

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