Zoe, i3 or other?

Im in a very similar boat myself so will follow this with interest. Had originally ruled out the Nissan leaf and Zoe due to reading about issues with battery degradation but reading more about it these issues it's seems to just be with the leaf? How do Zoe batteries hold up over time?

I love the Hyundai Ioniq but prices on those seem to be holding steady at 12k mark or so with the odd one dropping to 10k.

Also love the i3 but unfortunately not practical for family of 5.

I'm also considering a Kona due to the range boost over all the above, but hard to justify the price increase for a car that will rarely do over 150km.

Hadn't actually considered that at all. My use case is mostly 80km/hr country roads. Rarely any accidents but some absolutely stupid driving on rare occasions. I'll have to take a look at the NCap ratings for the other and factor that into the choice.

The Zoe us a very safe car structuraly. Don't that rating put you off. Its just because it did not have all the modern safety electronics on it.

You're not gonna get 94 Ah for 8k. With a good negotiation, you could get a 60 Ah for it. But it won't do a 100 km roundtrip without charging en route or serious range anxiety.

From the other thread:

You won't find many ZE40s with battery leases as they stopped leasing here around 2017 (it's buried in the Zoe thread). We got a ZE40 a few years back. Great little runabout for a second car with loads of range for its price. Easily does 150-180km, and can be pushed to 200km in good conditions. The trade-off with the i3 is the tiny range. I had a preference for an older i3 but the other half preferred the practicality of the Zoe with more range and a bigger boot for shopping. That said, the i3 is a technical marvel of engineering.

Unless the poster meant the 60 Ah then the 94 Ah has the same range really, you could do 220+ km in summer on 80 roads if you know how to regen, but in winter time it's similar 150 km at motorway speeds perhaps. The 120 Ah has 28% more range but costs at least 5k more than the 94 Ah or 10k more than the 60 Ah.

The i3 is much bigger inside than the Zoe and has a better satnav.

Not sure if all Zoes and all i3's have a CCS fast charging - something to consider. On the other hand, the i3 can do 11 kW AC while Zoe can do 22 kW AC, makes a difference only if one has 22 kW access (like at work).

For all that, the new hub in Carrickmines has an equal number of Chademo plugs as CCS. It's going to be around for a while yet.

No need for the culchie inferiority complex, I'm outside the Pale too. 🤣

I haven't seen any Chademo chargers being pulled up by the roots around me. In fact there's a new unit not yet live in a town near me with a Chademo on it.

There must still be thousands of Chademo cars in the country. A quick check on DD lists over 500 Leafs.

RE: CCS vs Chademo - Im going to say it may not matter much as max the OP is looking to go on this car is 100 Kms round trip. Already said they have a longer range EV for longer trips

Personally Id go for the i3. Mrs has one and I personally prefer the drive and power delivery compared to both the Zoe and Leaf. Infact I prefer its drive to a lot of more recent EVs

The Zoe or the i3?

Correction - only the 24 & 30 kW Leafs had Type 1 port. The 40 kWh has a Type 2 port - so no issue with tethered.

But it's moot unless you're considering a 30 kWh Leaf, given the 40 kWh is a write-off. 30 kWh Leaf is within the budget.

I didn't see that. Good spot. Still, you won't have much trouble getting one for 9-10k. I looked at anything priced up to 14k and worked out how I could knock a few grand off.

Like this one:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-leaf-2018-sv-premium-cold-pack-low-mileage/36729549