Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

yep to be crystal clear - absolutely minimal Relationship - just sharing an interesting figure

I’d agree with this, these types of internal policies are used effectively in Denmark, they include increased thresholds for protection, reduced protection time-limits, reduced access to the labour market, increased detention and, as you mention, reduced family reunification. 

Has been linked on thread multiple times.

There are many reasons, wildly reported.

Dangerous conditions (dinghys in the med?) More women and children drown trying to cross the Med, then men.

Also, Men are much more likely to be killed at home, or imprisoned, or tortured. Women and children are more likely to be spared those incidents.

Men travelling alone can move quicker and have less slowing them down, they don't need as much food or attention as children. they will also stay places that they wouldn't want or wouldn't be appropriate for their wives and children.

They may have just enough money for one person to travel.

Bringing wives and children over, once they are safe, with somewhere to bring them, is always better then dragging them thousands of kilometres on dangerous journeys.

Many other reasons, there are plenty of reports about this issue.

I got to stop watching RTE news, it just makes my blood absolutely boil.

We're going to be stuck with economic migrates coming from the UK via NI and there's nothing we can do.

This new legislation is all a smoke screen and this Government cannot do a thing to send this immigrates back. Lets say we process these immigrates where do we send them back to? I suspect most don't even have passports…..

That's another thing, there's bound to be numerous immigrates entering Ireland via NI without a passport, they're not UK or Irish residents and should be arrested.

Busy day, 255 new post. Problem with the other thread closed, everything ends up in here.

Anyway, word is, that 60 were brought into Newtown, although 2 have already been seen getting the bus back to Dublin.

But something odd going on, serious garda presence in the town again, water cannon, mounted police the lot. Maybe moving more in tonight and expecting trouble.

Sounds like they're preparing for War not for a protest by the local residents association?

I'm not suggesting that is the reason that all these people are travelling, I'm just answering the question as to why it happens that men travel and leave the wives and children at home.

Well you replied with some explanation thanks, but getting anyone out of a warzone or across borders is going to be dangerous/almost impossible at anytime, not like when the single male gets here that they can just send back flight tickets to get from somewhere like Damascus or Kabul back to Dublin, so it would make sense that if the migrant had a family or family members in danger back home that they'd attempt the cross borders journey with them…

Tbf, it as absolutely easier to get people out from the outside, then it is for those inside to get out and undertake dangerous journeys, particularly if they have kids with them.

there are always people, organisations and governments that get people out.

And, like I said, I'm not claiming this is the case for all those people claiming asylum, but they are just facts in relation to people fleeing.

I highly doubt it, the Uk will gladly send them our way

This situation is reall out of hand, there is no solution in sight. I'm not afraid to admit I'm really worried and scared.

Rwanda is working apparently!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13368177/Migrants-Dublin-tent-city-Britain-Rishi-Sunak-Rwanda.html

There is also some talk today from government spokespeople that the state needs to buy up more private accommodation to meet needs. To avoid exhausting or because they've already exhausted cheaper tourist options.]

That's a real sickener for mostly younger people here looking for reasonable priced rentals or to get on the housing ladder. The state once again using tax payers money to compete with it's own citizens and drive up their costs/ deny them opportunities.

How long can this go on? What happens in couple weeks when another few hundred have rocked up?

Irish Times reporting that 30 men were left behind today and have no accommodation. Now there must be more to that story since I doubt that anyone organising this would want the adverse publicity of "leaving" 30 people behind to fend for themselves on the streets of Dublin. But I obviously don't know. The men who didn't/couldn't get on a bus were told they would be contacted by email. WHAT? that doesn't sound right to me given the operation today. Anyway here's the report and I know it's paywalled, extract below anyway.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/05/01/some-refugees-left-without-accommodation-on-mount-street-while-a-number-set-to-return-to-dublin-city-centre/

"However, the three buses left an hour later, with about 30 men remaining on Mount Street.

Speaking just one hour after initially expressing excitement to be moving to more secure accommodation, Omar said: “They told us they don’t have any accommodation left, we don’t have anywhere, we’re just going to maybe go to the park.”

Those without accommodation have been told they will be contacted by email.

“Maybe after tonight, maybe after tomorrow, maybe after one month, we cannot imagine,” said Nasir, from Somalia.

The 26-year-old, who arrived in Ireland in January, said he waited for 10 hours for a spot on one of the buses. “Why couldn’t they have told us before?” he asked".

It also looks like some already in Crooksling will make their way back to the city anyway. The bus stop is across the road.

Yes, its absurd.

Using taxpayers money to drive taxpayers out of the housing market.