2024 Irish EV Sales

ah I don’t really want to depend on the public charging infrastructure tbh as I’ve heard and seen horror stories- plus it’s a lot more expensive.
I wouldn’t mind having to do it once in a while but not every trip.
Just for my own info- the kona has a bit of clearance doesn’t it? As in height off the ground compared to an insignia for example?

Yeah but as I’ve explained in my posts all at the 15k price point won’t suit anyone doing medium to long range business driving.

I think you maybe looking at that through rose tinted glasses there.

Didn't mean to offend but I’ve read of:

people not being able to connect to chargers,

Chargers out of service

Que’s for chargers

Chargers being ICED

I have also seen some of these scenarios.
I mean just read the ecars thread, thaeres plenty of complaints, I’m not making it up 😂

Maybe it was a kilometre. If you have the time, maybe you'd get up Google maps and measure the distance between the Lidl and Tesco in Wicklow town.

Yeah, unlike you I don't accuse people of making things up with no backup.

Has it ever occurred to you that people will only be exercised to share their experiences when they're bad ones? For every one of those there's a slew of happy campers who never feel the need to share their experiences.

Mine are as stated. Once had to shufti down the road to the next charger which had both units free.

Last week I went to Leitrim. Probably the worst county for chargers in Ireland. Stopped in Ballinalack for a bite. Stuck the car on the 150kW charger there while we ate, didn't need to but sure it was free and I'd need a charge at some point. The other charger was also free. On the way back both chargers free, but I didn't need to stop.

Good for you.
Enjoy your evening.

Do you live there? Vastly different from trying to cover a large distance and finding yourself unable to charge out on the motorway network.

Don't be suggesting 700m trips between chargers is as bad as it gets to people doing their research, it can get much worse than that. Doesn't do EV adoption any good. Have to be balanced. Lots of people do run into hassle.

No. I don't. But I know how to use a charger map. And Wicklow Town is a short hop off the M11 when you don't want to pay the eye-watering prices AG charge in Coynes Cross. Or Ionity in Gorey.

And I didn't suggest 700m was "as bad as it gets" to anyone. It was as bad is it's been for me. In other words the square root of feck all inconvenience. Please don't put words in my mouth. Especially when my post is right there for all to see and understand.

And "huge distance" is such an exaggeration in a country like Ireland.

liamog when you say if your manufacturer has the right offers in place for chargers do you mean if you drive a Tesla and live near or pass a supercharger regularly?
What other manufacturers provide public charging discounts?
Also it’s good to hear the infrastructure is improving- have they put high powered DC chargers along the M9 yet?

I've read those horror stories about the destroyed engines too. Must happen all the time. Likewise filling up diesel cars with petrol. Or the worst of all, running out of fuel at night and searching in vain for an all night petrol station. It's a litany of horror really. That one happened to me once. Still have nightmares. 🤣

There are Konas right now available for near enough that money. This one has a new battery (probably from the recall).

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/hyundai-kona-electric-64kw-nct-tax-new-battery/36568569

Why is it that in these threads the focus always seems to be that an EV has to save you money, the savings are a bonus to me.. Simply bought an EV as when I was test driving various vehicles such as 2021 Tiguan DSG, BMW 3 Series etc… I felt I was getting a poor return for my money, they were boring and slow with dim witted gearboxes, then I test drove a Tesla and it was a no brainer! 4000km in and I havent even used a public charger… no idea what I have saved or what kms per Kwh it does. We just drive it and enjoy it, and as a family car its been great. The whole thing of changing seems to be over thought by a lot of people, just try one and see if you like it and if it doesnt suit you then dont do it and move on with your life and stop worrying about the people that have switched. Different fuels for different circumstances, its not difficult to figure out which one suits your needs.

ah stop

going off the road into a petrol station, filling up, putting the pump back, walking into the shop, potentially waiting for a bit to be served is taking the same length of time as putting a plug in?

For me I think it's more comparable with analog vs smart phones. Analog phones were great because they had huge battery life but we all moved en masse to smartphones because, despite not even having enough battery for a day's usage in some cases, the functionality is better.

Doesnt stop me admiring the heroic 3210 but I wouldnt use one as my daily phone. Same as my w210, I love it as a classic but it's not a daily.

1. that kona costs €15950 which is more than my budget of 15k but through negotiation you might get it for 15k.
2. The range on that kona in cold weather at mororway speeds is 275km which is along way off doing a 350-400km return trip without charging.
   

Obviously not comparable if you equate the time of 1 petrol station fill up to plugging in a cable at home.

I meant it in the sense that it gets comparable in terms of time used when you compare the 2-3 mins at petrol pump for a range of +- 1000km (depending on vehicle) to having to get cable/unravel, plug in, plug out and put away 3-5 times (also car dependant) to cover the same distance.

This is just for home charging where a couple of charges when out on the road will totally invalidate the "time used filling up" argument.

I didn't bother with the stopwatch. Wasn't that important. 🤣

I should really add the time it took to wash my hands when I got home, pump was manky. As was the ground I stood on when filling. Covered in spillage.